|
|
| Welcome to 3T! Please take the time to register and join in on the friendly,knowledgeable watch talk.Please note that not all registrations will receive an immediate activation e-mail.Those who do not receive an immediate notification will be activated manually within 48hrs. by an admin. without an e-mail activation url sent to you,you may then sign in using your username and password,if you feel there is a problem please e-mail us at timetechtalk@hotmail.com and include your name and username and we activate your account.Thank You! |
| Moderated by: 3T | ||
| Author | Post | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
overoclock 3T WIS
|
Hello everybody! Please give me comment about these design! thanks! thanks! thanks! overoclock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ELORZnhKf0 Last edited on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 09:57 am by overoclock |
|||||||||
|
bigrustypig 3T WIS 
|
I think they're ok but are on the feminine side. If targetted to be sold to the ladies (young segment), I think they will sell. Have you tried crooked hands. Might be more avant garde. Design is ok  |
|||||||||
|
Graham 3T WIS 
|
WTF?? |
|||||||||
|
Hammerfjord Moderator 
|
Graham wrote:WTF?? You can't wear a massive gold Dj president and speak like that your honor Graham... This is reserved to me  |
|||||||||
|
AntFarm 3T WIS 
|
Not sure I understand... Is this a design for a real watch? Or just for the computer like the one on the left of this board?  |
|||||||||
|
ndburley 3T WIS 
|
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, the virtual clocks here are better but if you can tell us what you are trying to do maybe we could comment better? |
|||||||||
|
Graham 3T WIS
|
Hammerfjord wrote: Graham wrote:JEG er virkelig beklager , behage tilgi meg..... Last edited on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 02:09 am by Graham |
|||||||||
|
overoclock 3T WIS
|
Thanks all! I would like to make it into a real (clock/watch) for competition. |
|||||||||
|
Hammerfjord Moderator
|
Graham wrote:Hammerfjord wrote:Graham wrote:JEG er virkelig beklager , behage tilgi meg..... A bit rusted your Norwegian Graham but I understood: You need to drink some cod liver oil  Overclock: How can you clock's hands shrink and grow when following the irregular dial in reality? If they were telescopics(with spring) and follow a smooth curved dial border, the resulted friction between the hand tip and dial border would still be tiring the movement and modifie totally it's regularity... You can't avoid this fact. It would be the same problem if the telescopic parts would be influenced by a rail system under them: Irregular friction inflicted on the pinion and then the rest of the movement. Then, they should push in and out automaticaly??? If it can be achieved for a wrist watch, this kind of advanced micro ingineering(if possible to develop) would be out of reach for 99.9% of the world population...$$$$$$$ Or maybe this clock should be huge: Like a train station clock with timed pistons??  If you cut this feature, the all thing is gone: Stays only a "star" dial and not much new thing...?? Good luck. |
|||||||||
|
overoclock 3T WIS
|
Thanks Hammerfjord! I will try! cat28.gifIt maybe success or it maybe loss, however, I prefer trying! 'It's a long road......'. |
|||||||||
|
Paxman 3T WIS 
|
Graham wrote: WTF?? Indeed Graham... WTF??  |
|||||||||
|
bigrustypig 3T WIS
|
Hammerfjord wrote: Graham wrote: Graham.....William is right.....comments like this are patented by him and him alone  |
|||||||||
|
Jeep99dad 3T WIS 
|
X2hammer.gif Graham wrote: WTF?? |
|||||||||
|
RussellB 3T WIS
|
have to agree, if you are going wacky then go wacky! Dont put straight black hands on a flower shaped face, put pink and orange wiggly ones on |
|||||||||
|
Hammerfjord Moderator
|
The problem isn't visual Russell: After realisation, it could be of any color or similar shapes.... The problem is mechanical and as I see it: I guess that an existing watch movement , quartz or mechanical hasn't enough torque to ignore totally the friction produced by the hands who would be stressed by a border or rail changing them length. A watch pinion can't be under stress when impulsed by a usual movement: It false all impulses and time accuracy it was regulated for. But! Urwerk came out with the 202 Twin-turbine hammerhead few years ago: There, the hands are switching length across the dial. It's a rail system engraved in the dial who influence the pin coming in and out of the hollow hand. Well, there's not only this feature in fact, as it's one of somes who are really amazing. The thing is that when you achieve such engineering works, you can't sell the result "cheap"... You will observe the rail system on this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLTBnIszCLE&feature=related I let you observe the watch itself on Urwerk.com where you can see the rail on the dial and the hands with different length. You can also click on the left and be explain the all stuff with the mechanism decomposed and see again the video: http://www.urwerk.com/watches_202.asp All of this isn't new: Just very challenging for anybody who wouldn't be a micro-mechanical engineer genious(or a team of them) with extremly large funds behind... |
|||||||||
|
overoclock 3T WIS
|
Oh!......No! "All of this isn't new"  The only way is to make it cheap.TT |
|||||||||
|
Hammerfjord Moderator
|
overoclock wrote:Oh!......No! "All of this isn't new" I observed "copyright" on your dials or do I misread? How can you write this if you didn't depose any patenting on the design? If you want to copy Urwerk's design: You should be aware of design and copyrights laws. Otherwise, you'll forever be a pirate spraying lawless country products... Seriously, making it cheap and still 100% functional/precise is just a dream in my eyes... |
|||||||||
|
deadlyapp 3T WIS 
|
I'm going to agree with Will on this one. While the idea isn't necessarily that far fetched, the engineering that would have to go into it is nearly impossible for someone who is not already both a watch master and micro-mechanical engineer. To essentially eliminate the effects of friction is no small engineering feat. Then there is also the patent issue. You will probably find that there is quite a portfolio of patents out there for an idea such as yours, but not in production due to the extreme cost to actually produce something such as this. Also regarding your design and the above mentioned factors - Making a design with less curves or less sharply designed curves would make some of the issues more manageable. If you do design it with either a pin riding on the underside or simply spring loaded hands, the extreme change in a curve will introduce quite a bit of force. A mechanical engineer with some knowledge of watches or micro-engineering could probably do this or help you, but when you're talking about probably micro-Newtons or less, the little things matter. Edit: Putting copyright on the dials is completely useless anyways, you have nothing patentable with what you have there. A mere idea is not useful. Last edited on Thu Jul 29th, 2010 01:23 am by deadlyapp |
|||||||||
|
overoclock 3T WIS
|
The only product I care about cannot come true, telling me just how hurt I been......do dododododo......and let me be alone again...cat28.gif I like your cat deadlyapp. |
|||||||||
