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 Posted: Wed Jul 15th, 2009 04:36 pm
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I read somewhere that Gevril provided "ETA 2824-2 movements with Dubois Dépraz  layers". What is that exactly? Marketing hype?

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ral wrote: I read somewhere that Gevril provided "ETA 2824-2 movements with Dubois Dépraz  layers". What is that exactly? Marketing hype?


Going back to the "First Generation" right through the present, Gevril has used the Dubois Depraz modified movements for most of their chronographs. I have several of them. The 2824-2 is an automatic 25 jewel movement which is modified by adding the Dubois Depraz 26 jewel chronograph module for a movement total of 51 jewels. No hype, in my experience, just a great movement.

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cfoster wrote: ral wrote: I read somewhere that Gevril provided "ETA 2824-2 movements with Dubois Dépraz  layers". What is that exactly? Marketing hype?


Going back to the "First Generation" right through the present, Gevril has used the Dubois Depraz modified movements for most of their chronographs. I have several of them. The 2824-2 is an automatic 25 jewel movement which is modified by adding the Dubois Depraz 26 jewel chronograph module for a movement total of 51 jewels. No hype, in my experience, just a great movement.

Clyde


The DD2020 is, indeed, a magnificent movement...I have 2 watches that use it, a Steinhart MACH1 and a VIXA Type-20...




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So the modified movements are only chronographs?

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Historically Speaking:

The Dubois-Depraz chronograph module has
been around for 40 years now. It was first introduced
at the Basel Fair of March 1969 when Hamilton,Heuer
and Breitling started the Calibre 11 project, which
brought these three companies together
to create the first automatic chronograph wristwatch.
Only to be beaten by the Zenith El-Primero, a few months earlier.

The Movado-Zenith El-Primero,was the first integrated
column wheel automatic chronograph movement.

The Early Design:

The Dubois-Depraz module is located on top
of the Buren micro-rotor automatic movement.

The Buren micro-rotor was used in the Universal
Geneva Polerouter and Hamilton's Thin-O-Matic watches.

Over the course of four decades. The DD module
has been used in Tissot,Longines, Omega Speedmaster
Reduce,Georg von Burg,Anonimo and other companies.

The More Common Design:

The Dubois-Depraz chronograph module sits above
the ETA 2892-A2 25 jewel movement.


The DD module was a cost effective way to
produce an automatic chronograph movement.
Depending on whose side of the debate one takes,
is that many of the DD modules simply gets replace;
partially due to complexity of the piggy back design.
















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 Here are my 2 Gevril Chronos with DD 2020





It is also my understanding that if some thing goes wrong with chrono the 2824 will still function as a 3 hand movement unlike the 7750. The module is then replaced.

Gevril also modifed the 2893 now found in the Avenue Serenade with 2 timezones and day and night windows . The new ones are quite up there in price, but here's a 1st Gen. example



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Yes, Chris that is correct the 2824 will work
as normal three hand watch when the
Dubois-Depraz module malfunctions.

The Valjoux 7750 is an integrated automatic
chronograph movement. This movement is
more difficult to repair due to its the small
clutch spring. The part number 8320 resembles
a something between a staple and the teeth of
a beetle. The sole purpose of this spring is to
move the clutch which operates the
oscilliating pinion on command.

Last edited on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 09:45 am by Simon_Leung

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