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| Posted: Mon May 16th, 2011 06:50 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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romeo-1 wrote:oagaspar wrote:seems everyone is using the SAS most original design...A.Cairelli is next in line with this Italian Forum fora watch!You are a sad and pathetic little man to take such joy in the outright theft of this design. Thankfully those with even an iota of intelligence (something of which is obviously lacking here) know the real story and would not favor such brands as Crux with even a sideways glance. Please do me a favor and ban me for life from this pathetic and deluded forum...I want nothing to do with this anymore. My only regret is that Benarus, a stand-up model of how a watch manufacturer should be, is a sponsor here and not on a more legitimate site... Read before to write you small provocator: The so called SAS design was in fact a variant of a Chinese design allready available on a Hong-Kong manufacture's catalogue. SAS just moded it. You are so full of it: You even didn't know that. And that's why SAS could never do anything about Vixa and the others!!! You are the pathetic ignorant!
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| Posted: Mon May 16th, 2011 07:31 pm |
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Johnny P Advisor 
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Hammerfjord wrote:romeo-1 wrote:  [ 
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| Posted: Tue May 17th, 2011 09:06 am |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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 Thanks Johnny. Diver down, diver down!! Last edited on Tue May 17th, 2011 09:17 am by Hammerfjord |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17th, 2011 03:35 am |
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watcher 3T WIS 
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I'm just catching up with this thread after several months. I had heard of this case controversy but not seen the details of it before. I can't help but feel that this... movas wrote: Also, the whole definition of who designed what is vague as most brands only send in sketches and have the case factories 'design' the technical drawings. ...might have a lot to do with the controversy. When the factory does all the technical drawings (which necessarily involves some of their own creative and technical input) then the idea of who 'designed' something really does become unclear. I've seen this myself many, many years ago in the personal protective equipment market. Some designs of goggle were so copied in south east Asia that they essentially became 'generic' designs. Last edited on Sun Jul 17th, 2011 03:45 am by watcher |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17th, 2011 09:31 am |
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bigrustypig 3T WIS 
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Just saw this thread again. That Romeo-1 guy is something else and made remarks totally uncalled for. Geesssh...and only over a watch discussion??? 
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17th, 2011 01:05 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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On my side ,I first thought that a HK manufacture was reselling the SAS design to others after getting some cold shoulder from the SAS owner... After some reading and observation and info-fishing ,I understood fast that most of micro-brands are contacting those factories with sketch drawings and get proposed a final design cooked up by the factories's designers and them own catalogs... Also many ready parts can be mixed to obtain a new cocktail watch... That's why there is similarities when those micro-brands are working with the same factory. You don't need to be a rocket engineering big head to understand it. The SAS case was just a catalog moded pick as Vixa picked his too. Just contact this factory and get yours with a special bezel and a different crown just for the pleasure to be accused of grand-design-theft by the WUS adult club and laugh to SAS who can't say a word because they know the thruth and never really owned any unique design....
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17th, 2011 02:18 pm |
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watcher 3T WIS
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I should add for the sake of balance that since I wrote my earlier message in this thread I have read (on WUS) that Graeme of SAS said that he did not require the factory to do any technical drawings or design: He says he submitted full technical drawings initially and at each revision. I'm not taking sides, just passing on new (to me) information. Last edited on Sun Jul 17th, 2011 02:20 pm by watcher |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17th, 2011 03:58 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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watcher wrote:I should add for the sake of balance that since I wrote my earlier message in this thread I have read (on WUS) that Graeme of SAS said that he did not require the factory to do any technical drawings or design: He says he submitted full technical drawings initially and at each revision. Sure ,and that's why the WUSers allways defended Graeme... But read page 3 of this thread where Kenneth from Crux telles that the factory allways claimed that it was them own design and that them guys had done the drawing themself. So what now? Kenneth lies? So why the factory sells those cases to other brands such as Vixa and it's sister brand? Do the factory lies? Telling that they own everything they don't and risking to scare away next costumers who would take them for design-thiefs? Or is it like the "Kobold case" that Fricker sells to Laco for them 1000m watch and still do business with Kobold who seems to never had complained because Fricker seems to own the design somehow...? Wierd no? I would say that when you do the maths, you understand why everybody can use this so called SAS design in total inpunity.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17th, 2011 04:49 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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this horse has been beat to death...fact is CRUX is near Sold Out of all 300 cases...the next offering will be the last remaining cases being done in a custom order PVD,as per customer request...once those are gone the new CRUX design will be revealed,completed and ready to sell,leaving SAS all the glory of the mysteriously designed case forever,and to sell his 1st 100 LE Longios(many of which have already been in warranty repair)...that 1000's of WIS on WUS said they would buy....you know,vote with your wallets and all that BS> seems to me CRUX had greater success in the end. 
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17th, 2011 09:31 pm |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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 SAS meh...
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17th, 2011 11:42 pm |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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That said, enough said!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18th, 2011 10:14 am |
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sspc 3T WIS
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romeo-1 wrote:oagaspar wrote:seems everyone is using the SAS most original design...A.Cairelli is next in line with this Italian Forum fora watch!You are a sad and pathetic little man to take such joy in the outright theft of this design. Thankfully those with even an iota of intelligence (something of which is obviously lacking here) know the real story and would not favor such brands as Crux with even a sideways glance. Please do me a favor and ban me for life from this pathetic and deluded forum...I want nothing to do with this anymore. My only regret is that Benarus, a stand-up model of how a watch manufacturer should be, is a sponsor here and not on a more legitimate site... Perfect Post Romeo. I also regret Benarus is over here as one of the few reasons I have this forum membership (but don't post) is to have access to all forum Benarus pics. Some good info and good folks on this site but I find Oscar to be comical as his position on a watch company seems largely based on his personal involvement with a watch company. I really can't take his opinions seriously. He rips into Tempest but Crux gets a pass. Pure comedy. Round of applause to Romeo for calling it like it is. Oscar, Ban away! LOL. 
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