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Posted: Sat Feb 11th, 2012 03:22 pm

Antoine1966
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That's a tuff one William..I too have looked at these over and over...but my vote would be for the non Ti version on the right...of course you could always just toss a coin..and if that doesn't work in your favour on the first try..then its time to do the best out of three dog smile.gif

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Posted: Sat Feb 11th, 2012 03:28 pm

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watchdaddy1 wrote: stew77 wrote: Well William...knowing what a PAM freak you are (), if you are trying to capture the vibe of the PAM 249 then my pick would be to go for the non-Ti Kampfschwimmer on the right (it's the only one I've seen in person, and I still love mine).

The vintage lume dial, plus the blued hands, and polished case combined with a dial color that I would describe as 'dark chocolate' (really gorgeous...and pics have a hard time doing it justice IMO...I have some older pics of mine that I'll include but I've been meaning to take some more recent ones), gives off a really nice vibe. In bright sunlight, you will find yourself staring at the dial and trying not to drool on yourself.

The Ti version California has the brighter white lume, gold toned hands, and it does add that really cool sandwich dial on that great looking satin brushed Ti case...hmmm, maybe you should get both!!! ...I have to admit, I've often thought about adding the Ti California version too!

....heck, I think you've just convinced me that I need to add the Ti to my existing Kampfschwimmer!!!

Anyway...if it is the 249 vibe that you are after, I would go for the polished non-Ti Kampfschwimmer...love mine and have no intent of ever getting rid of it.

excuse the finger print on the dial...

here's mine on a french ammo currently...

Winner,Winner chicken Dinner (as Mark puts it)That combo is SMOKING HOT Chris.

I think I have my decision made..

Thanks William!!! ...I think it's hard to go wrong here, but the Kampfschwimmer is really a classic looker IMO!!!

The sapphire dome makes this one hard to photograph (and I know that Anders offered this with an Acrylic crystal too in the past), but here are a few more pics on the wrist.

Posted: Sat Feb 11th, 2012 03:37 pm

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stew77 wrote: watchdaddy1 wrote: stew77 wrote: Well William...knowing what a PAM freak you are (), if you are trying to capture the vibe of the PAM 249 then my pick would be to go for the non-Ti Kampfschwimmer on the right (it's the only one I've seen in person, and I still love mine).

The vintage lume dial, plus the blued hands, and polished case combined with a dial color that I would describe as 'dark chocolate' (really gorgeous...and pics have a hard time doing it justice IMO...I have some older pics of mine that I'll include but I've been meaning to take some more recent ones), gives off a really nice vibe. In bright sunlight, you will find yourself staring at the dial and trying not to drool on yourself.

The Ti version California has the brighter white lume, gold toned hands, and it does add that really cool sandwich dial on that great looking satin brushed Ti case...hmmm, maybe you should get both!!! ...I have to admit, I've often thought about adding the Ti California version too!

....heck, I think you've just convinced me that I need to add the Ti to my existing Kampfschwimmer!!!

Anyway...if it is the 249 vibe that you are after, I would go for the polished non-Ti Kampfschwimmer...love mine and have no intent of ever getting rid of it.

excuse the finger print on the dial...

here's mine on a french ammo currently...

Winner,Winner chicken Dinner (as Mark puts it)That combo is SMOKING HOT Chris.

I think I have my decision made..

Thanks William!!! ...I think it's hard to go wrong here, but the Kampfschwimmer is really a classic looker IMO!!!

The sapphire dome makes this one hard to photograph (and I know that Anders offered this with an Acrylic crystal too in the past), but here are a few more pics on the wrist.

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Thanks Chris...Contacting Anders now

Last edited on Sat Feb 11th, 2012 03:38 pm by watchdaddy1

Posted: Sat Feb 11th, 2012 03:43 pm

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Bummer his website says SOLD OUT....

BOTH

& Mark @ IW doesnt have any either...................

Last edited on Sat Feb 11th, 2012 03:55 pm by watchdaddy1

Posted: Sat Feb 11th, 2012 04:01 pm

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watchdaddy1 wrote: Bummer his website says SOLD OUT....

BOTH

& Mark @ IW doesnt have any either...................

BUMMER William!

I see one for sale on WUS here: (Note that this one for sale has a solid ss caseback instead of the sapphire view caseback that you typically see on this model).

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-dievas-vintage-kampfschwimmer-compete-set-custom-order-647070.html

...and woh...I see there's also a Black Diamond for sale over there too!!! Man oh man, if it wasn't for the case dents at 6 o'clock I would be all over that right now!!!! The Black Diamond continues to be an elusive grail of mine!!!! Maybe you are checking that one out there too???

Last edited on Sat Feb 11th, 2012 04:11 pm by stew77

Posted: Sat Feb 11th, 2012 04:52 pm

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Yea I saw them both-but I want a new 1.

..Man & I just sold my Vortex to fund the new purchase...

& patience is NOT my virtue NOT 1 SIGLE IODEA..

Posted: Sat Feb 11th, 2012 04:55 pm

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How much are these new anyways? They look real good and Anders always sells high quality products.

Posted: Sun Feb 12th, 2012 01:43 pm

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Thanks guys for enabling me w/ the info & pics.I got what I wanted...

Anders shot me an invioce last night for the Vintage Kampfschwimmer Sapphire,& I got a discount for being a member here & a repeat custo.

3T members kick ass.

Posted: Sun Feb 12th, 2012 04:01 pm

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watchdaddy1 wrote:
Thanks guys for enabling me w/ the info & pics.I got what I wanted...

Anders shot me an invioce last night for the Vintage Kampfschwimmer Sapphire,& I got a discount for being a member here & a repeat custo.

3T members kick ass.

Nice William!!!

Glad to hear that Anders was able to hook you up!!! ...and with a discount too!

I hope you like it as much as I do, and would love hearing your thoughts after it arrives (from someone who owns a sweet Radiomir).

Posted: Sun Feb 12th, 2012 09:01 pm

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Mate, sorry to come into this so late. I have just seen the thread. I have owned the Cali Ti for about a year now and I have not looked back! It is a beautifully executed watch. I, too, was between the two and the only thing that swayed me was that my mate Keelson had the '...swimmer'. There is no doubting the quality of the watches and, if you can take the hit, I would say that they are sufficiently different to justify buying both of them!

Anyway, here are a couple of crappy shots of my Cali Ti for reference. Happy shopping!

Cheers.

Dim

Posted: Mon Feb 13th, 2012 12:07 am

Jeep99dad
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I really like that Ti case!

Posted: Mon Feb 13th, 2012 12:56 am

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I thank you! The photos really do not do the watch justice...

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