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| Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 02:20 pm |
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murphy j 3T WIS 
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Edgel wrote: Still, without being political, if there are things we can do to help delay the trend torward warming, why not? To continue consuming the earth's resources at a reckless rate robs our children and only enriches those who already are consumed by greed. The battle in the Mideast is about more than religion or tribalism. Its also about who will controll our dwindling resources. Its Time for some Tech Talk about alternatives to fossil fuels. There are things that can be done. Convert your home to a combination of solar and wind power. Can you afford to do that? I know I can't at this point in my life. I hope to build a home someday and incorporate these things. Do you drive a Prius or some other such hybrid vehicle? I don't and probably won't. Those vehicles are just as bad for the environment as a gas guzzling suv. They actually generate more pollution producing just one of those, than it takes to produce a Jeep Cherokee. Additionally, what about those batteries that have to be replaced every 3 to 7 years? There's a recycling nightmare right there. I don't say these things as an attack. I'm merely using them to illustrate the pitfalls of some of the courses of action that could be taken. I personally am a big believer in the wind/sun power thing. There are plenty of examples of people who have done that and have NO dependence on the power companies. They even get paid by the power companies, because the excess they generate in their homes is fed back into the power supply.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 02:34 pm |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS 
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You know awhile back I heard a fella say this and it just popped in my head. "Here we are in 2008 and still don't have the Jetson's life style" Where is my robot maid and flying car? :D
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 02:51 pm |
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murphy j 3T WIS
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Skipdawg wrote: You know awhile back I heard a fella say this and it just popped in my head. I heard that one too. I can't remember who said it though:?. Although, if you read Popular Science/Mechanics, that flying car might not be too far off according to some of their articles:).
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 04:43 pm |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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murphy j wrote:
Yea I saw the flying car article and another of a car that would drive you too. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. We just may see it in the next 15 to 30 years.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 05:46 pm |
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Paxman 3T WIS 
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Edgel wrote: Still, without being political, if there are things we can do to help delay the trend torward warming, why not? To continue consuming the earth's resources at a reckless rate robs our children and only enriches those who already are consumed by greed. The battle in the Mideast is about more than religion or tribalism. Its also about who will controll our dwindling resources. Its Time for some Tech Talk about alternatives to fossil fuels. Well put Edgel.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 12:06 pm |
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sleddog218 3T WIS
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I'm on your side of the political spectrum Mark. I happen to think that it is a combination of natural cycles and human influences, and that the human influence has sped up the natural cycle. What cracks me up is those who hear about a cold winter, or a lot of snow, and think it's an argument against global warming. I happen to think that global warming doesn't automatically mean that everyplace is going to be warmer all the time, but rather that more heat in a place that doesn't always get it will disrupt weather patterns, leading to higher snowfalls in some places, colder winters in others, or bigger hurricanes/tsunamis, etc. JMHO. OK pile on, I think Mark's got my back here smile8.gif
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 12:22 pm |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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March 31st and right now it is sunny and 31 degrees. Needs to warm up to at least 51 for me. LOL :D so I can thaw out. :cool:
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 08:42 pm |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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sleddog218 wrote: I'm on your side of the political spectrum Mark. I happen to think that it is a combination of natural cycles and human influences, and that the human influence has sped up the natural cycle. What cracks me up is those who hear about a cold winter, or a lot of snow, and think it's an argument against global warming. I happen to think that global warming doesn't automatically mean that everyplace is going to be warmer all the time, but rather that more heat in a place that doesn't always get it will disrupt weather patterns, leading to higher snowfalls in some places, colder winters in others, or bigger hurricanes/tsunamis, etc. Well put, David. I'm not any tree hugging Al Gore lover by any means but I do think we as a race of creatures living on this planet are quite potentially hastening and influencing natural patterns. Of course, who cares? We'll all be dead by then!face4.gif
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 09:09 pm |
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Skipdawg 3T WIS
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Yay the sun came out and they said on the news it will be sunny tomorrow and make it to at least 50. I can thaw out. Who likes a frigid Dawg anyway. LOL :D
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 11:53 pm |
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Well PAX, I always enjoy your political view point; it provides a bit of humor to my day...not to mention a total relief from reality!!!:D Okay, let me hear your slant on the new changing of the terminology from Global warming to Global Climate Change because the real science doesn't support the warming issue...also interested in how psuedo-science changed it forecast from a new ice age to global warming in a mere 30 years. Yes, I know algore won the Nobel Peace prize, but I consider him as much of a scientist as I consider Yasser Arafat a pundit for peace on his Nobel Award. It is a great emotional issue (which is why politicians use it), but the long term fact don't support it...and no, I don't think the earth is flat! BTW, Gores carbon footprint is bigger than he is!  There may or may not be any truth to the fact that Global warming is occurring at this point, but there is no credible evidence that if it is occurring, that it is man-made...now if you want to discuss the harm done to by man in the way of environmental pollution of rivers, etc., we can agree, but global warming is a hoax, and most credible scientists agree. Global warming has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with politics.As to energy and power consumption, if the politicians were serious about it, we would be drilling in Anwar (screw the Caribou...they will not be harmed or deprived, and even if they were, they are not more important than man), we would be allowed to drill in the Gulf of Mexico, where, the Mexicans just happen to be drilling. we would be drilling off the straits of Florida as the Cubans plan to do...we would drill off the coast off California (screw the view of the phony Hollywood elite)...and more importantly, we would abandon fossil fuel consumption for power plant and convert to Nuclear Energy as most of Europe has...but no, you liberal environmentalist wont lets us do any of that. End of Rant
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| Posted: Tue Apr 1st, 2008 07:20 am |
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Paxman 3T WIS
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Ken... what took you so long? Believe me, I am no liberal enviromentalist... my carbon footprint is impressive!! I can't argue with your points and won't. They only thing that really made me think was trying to remember that other thing al Gore won besides the Nobel? Now what was that??face4.gif
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| Posted: Tue Apr 1st, 2008 08:45 am |
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canadajo 3T WIS 
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There is something to the fact man has altered the climate somewhat ........ but there have been ice ages and warming trends, as well as dramatic changes to the earth like the continents dividing, all without the help of man ..... man is not as significant as we think when it comes to mother earth .... if we were wiped out it would take a few hundred years to eliminate our mark ..... just my 2 cents
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