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Posted: Sat Feb 27th, 2016 01:18 pm

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oagaspar wrote:
stew77 wrote:

Well, I've apparently stepped on a very sensitive and historically energized topic. My apologies for that is all I can offer.

I don't drink Kool Aid, and I guess I will leave it at that.
no apologies needed Chris...I did not aim my reply at you or anyone in general,but to all who may read this...all I have to say is research your purchases and buy the seller as much as the product...recently Seiko released the new Turtle and imho is twice the value of a Prometheus at twice the price and many other micros who do not tell the truth...simply put, "Swiss Made" on the Ocean Diver,really? and this was all brought on by me seeing this new Poseidon,or should I say the old Aquatimer...even the lume was copied! ...I have been mild in my thoughts on this new model,you should hear what the purists are saying!

"Purists" eh...you say that like it's a good thing. Who are these purists and why should I care what they are saying? I guess if we want to talk about "purists", I have seen a persistent group of "purists" (snobs?, nitpickers?, curmudgeons?...maybe, but who am I to say), that have a problem with the IWC brand itself. I guess it all depends on how far you want to take your "purist" notions . These "purists" refer to the Aquatimer line from IWC as a distraction of the brand often referring to the styling as cartoonish and nothing more than a gussied up fashion watch. These "purists" point to IWC as a brand that has lost its traditional design virtues to pursue sales from the uneducated masses that flock to the next shiny object. Hmmm...really?

Do I agree with these purists?...eh hem...well no, as I've always appreciated the Aquatimer line from it's early vintage compressor design, to the excellent 3536, to the more recent Aquatimer lineup.

I certainly enjoy excellence in design, including design cohesiveness with excellent fit/finish and quality materials. Am I so rigid that I also don't appreciate a bit of design diversity within a brand? Nope. I also appreciate the heritage of the established big brands, and the nimbleness of the micros that build quality timepieces.

I guess I simply can't hang with these purist, elitist snobs...their absolute adherence to traditional structure and design may be just a bit too rigid for me, as I do believe there is room in this hobby for both tradition and classic designs, but also diversity in design that brings fun into the hobby as well...but what do I know? To each his own.

Posted: Sat Feb 27th, 2016 01:47 pm

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stew77 wrote: oagaspar wrote:
stew77 wrote:

Well, I've apparently stepped on a very sensitive and historically energized topic. My apologies for that is all I can offer.

I don't drink Kool Aid, and I guess I will leave it at that.
no apologies needed Chris...I did not aim my reply at you or anyone in general,but to all who may read this...all I have to say is research your purchases and buy the seller as much as the product...recently Seiko released the new Turtle and imho is twice the value of a Prometheus at twice the price and many other micros who do not tell the truth...simply put, "Swiss Made" on the Ocean Diver,really? and this was all brought on by me seeing this new Poseidon,or should I say the old Aquatimer...even the lume was copied! ...I have been mild in my thoughts on this new model,you should hear what the purists are saying!

"Purists" eh...you say that like it's a good thing. Who are these purists and why should I care what they are saying? I guess if we want to talk about "purists", I have seen a persistent group of "purists" (snobs?, nitpickers?, curmudgeons?...maybe, but who am I to say), that have a problem with the IWC brand itself. I guess it all depends on how far you want to take your "purist" notions . These "purists" refer to the Aquatimer line from IWC as a distraction of the brand often referring to the styling as cartoonish and nothing more than a gussied up fashion watch. These "purists" point to IWC as a brand that has lost its traditional design virtues to pursue sales from the uneducated masses that flock to the next shiny object. Hmmm...really?

Do I agree with these purists?...eh hem...well no, as I've always appreciated the Aquatimer line from it's early vintage compressor design, to the excellent 3536, to the more recent Aquatimer lineup.

I certainly enjoy excellence in design, including design cohesiveness with excellent fit/finish and quality materials. Am I so rigid that I also don't appreciate a bit of design diversity within a brand? Nope. I also appreciate the heritage of the established big brands, and the nimbleness of the micros that build quality timepieces.

I guess I simply can't hang with these purist, elitist snobs...their absolute adherence to traditional structure and design may be just a bit too rigid for me, as I do believe there is room in this hobby for both tradition and classic designs, but also diversity in design that brings fun into the hobby as well...but what do I know? To each his own.

if you noticed I too snickered at what the purists are saying...have not seen any negativity about the Aquatimer though...so I guess you feel this new Poseidon design is just another unique addition to the Prometheus folly of imaginative designs all their own.

Posted: Sat Feb 27th, 2016 06:41 pm

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oagaspar wrote:
stew77 wrote: oagaspar wrote:
stew77 wrote:

Well, I've apparently stepped on a very sensitive and historically energized topic. My apologies for that is all I can offer.

I don't drink Kool Aid, and I guess I will leave it at that.
no apologies needed Chris...I did not aim my reply at you or anyone in general,but to all who may read this...all I have to say is research your purchases and buy the seller as much as the product...recently Seiko released the new Turtle and imho is twice the value of a Prometheus at twice the price and many other micros who do not tell the truth...simply put, "Swiss Made" on the Ocean Diver,really? and this was all brought on by me seeing this new Poseidon,or should I say the old Aquatimer...even the lume was copied! ...I have been mild in my thoughts on this new model,you should hear what the purists are saying!

"Purists" eh...you say that like it's a good thing. Who are these purists and why should I care what they are saying? I guess if we want to talk about "purists", I have seen a persistent group of "purists" (snobs?, nitpickers?, curmudgeons?...maybe, but who am I to say), that have a problem with the IWC brand itself. I guess it all depends on how far you want to take your "purist" notions . These "purists" refer to the Aquatimer line from IWC as a distraction of the brand often referring to the styling as cartoonish and nothing more than a gussied up fashion watch. These "purists" point to IWC as a brand that has lost its traditional design virtues to pursue sales from the uneducated masses that flock to the next shiny object. Hmmm...really?

Do I agree with these purists?...eh hem...well no, as I've always appreciated the Aquatimer line from it's early vintage compressor design, to the excellent 3536, to the more recent Aquatimer lineup.

I certainly enjoy excellence in design, including design cohesiveness with excellent fit/finish and quality materials. Am I so rigid that I also don't appreciate a bit of design diversity within a brand? Nope. I also appreciate the heritage of the established big brands, and the nimbleness of the micros that build quality timepieces.

I guess I simply can't hang with these purist, elitist snobs...their absolute adherence to traditional structure and design may be just a bit too rigid for me, as I do believe there is room in this hobby for both tradition and classic designs, but also diversity in design that brings fun into the hobby as well...but what do I know? To each his own.

if you noticed I too snickered at what the purists are saying...have not seen any negativity about the Aquatimer though...so I guess you feel this new Poseidon design is just another unique addition to the Prometheus folly of imaginative designs all their own.

Most of the negativity I've seen has been on IWC specific forums. Like I said, I've always had a thing for the Aquatimer, in many versions, and it continues to be on my wish list. Never a question in my mind where the inspiration for the Poseidon came from. The resemblance to the Aquatimer is why I bought one in the first place (and remember, at preorder pricing the Gen1 watch was 400Euro or ~$435). The build on these is actually quite good considering the price...the sapphire bezel is extremely well done. Imaginative design, NO...bang-for-the-buck, YES...which is why I went for it.

Posted: Sun Feb 28th, 2016 12:55 pm

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stew77 wrote: oagaspar wrote:
stew77 wrote: oagaspar wrote:
stew77 wrote:

Well, I've apparently stepped on a very sensitive and historically energized topic. My apologies for that is all I can offer.

I don't drink Kool Aid, and I guess I will leave it at that.
no apologies needed Chris...I did not aim my reply at you or anyone in general,but to all who may read this...all I have to say is research your purchases and buy the seller as much as the product...recently Seiko released the new Turtle and imho is twice the value of a Prometheus at twice the price and many other micros who do not tell the truth...simply put, "Swiss Made" on the Ocean Diver,really? and this was all brought on by me seeing this new Poseidon,or should I say the old Aquatimer...even the lume was copied! ...I have been mild in my thoughts on this new model,you should hear what the purists are saying!

"Purists" eh...you say that like it's a good thing. Who are these purists and why should I care what they are saying? I guess if we want to talk about "purists", I have seen a persistent group of "purists" (snobs?, nitpickers?, curmudgeons?...maybe, but who am I to say), that have a problem with the IWC brand itself. I guess it all depends on how far you want to take your "purist" notions . These "purists" refer to the Aquatimer line from IWC as a distraction of the brand often referring to the styling as cartoonish and nothing more than a gussied up fashion watch. These "purists" point to IWC as a brand that has lost its traditional design virtues to pursue sales from the uneducated masses that flock to the next shiny object. Hmmm...really?

Do I agree with these purists?...eh hem...well no, as I've always appreciated the Aquatimer line from it's early vintage compressor design, to the excellent 3536, to the more recent Aquatimer lineup.

I certainly enjoy excellence in design, including design cohesiveness with excellent fit/finish and quality materials. Am I so rigid that I also don't appreciate a bit of design diversity within a brand? Nope. I also appreciate the heritage of the established big brands, and the nimbleness of the micros that build quality timepieces.

I guess I simply can't hang with these purist, elitist snobs...their absolute adherence to traditional structure and design may be just a bit too rigid for me, as I do believe there is room in this hobby for both tradition and classic designs, but also diversity in design that brings fun into the hobby as well...but what do I know? To each his own.

if you noticed I too snickered at what the purists are saying...have not seen any negativity about the Aquatimer though...so I guess you feel this new Poseidon design is just another unique addition to the Prometheus folly of imaginative designs all their own.

Most of the negativity I've seen has been on IWC specific forums. Like I said, I've always had a thing for the Aquatimer, in many versions, and it continues to be on my wish list. Never a question in my mind where the inspiration for the Poseidon came from. The resemblance to the Aquatimer is why I bought one in the first place (and remember, at preorder pricing the Gen1 watch was 400Euro or ~$435). The build on these is actually quite good considering the price...the sapphire bezel is extremely well done. Imaginative design, NO...bang-for-the-buck, YES...which is why I went for it.
understood Chris,I look forward to your pics and thoughts when it arrives,Buddy...

Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 12:22 am

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While tempted by the new offering in black/yellow and blue/yellow, I have not ordered another one in the new color scheme.

Pics of my Blue/White though, which I've had for a while.

Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 11:43 am

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Sorry guys,

I not wanted to cause any strenuous debate.

...or a fundamental discussion about Micro Brands.

Everyone should buy and wear what he enjoys.

I wanted to present only news.

My English is too poor to have a say around here.

So I am out !

Posted: Mon Mar 7th, 2016 06:42 pm

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Aw man I totally missed this thread, now it's just inappropriately late to add anything sensational to it...

Posted: Mon Mar 7th, 2016 11:21 pm

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OldeCrow wrote: Aw man I totally missed this thread, now it's just inappropriately late to add anything sensational to it...

it's never too late Chris! dog smile.gif

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