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 Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2008 11:37 pm
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I was looking at Russia 2 All and saw they were having a special on the red square with repolished cases. So I have a couple of questions. What exactly is repolished? And it is a gold case with either a black or white dial. so black or white?

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It simply means they buffed or polished the case to remove the light tarnish supposedly acquired in shipping. The black dial is the one to have. Very handsome. I'd get a polish cloth or jeweler's cloth though to keep the tarnish from coming back. Watch Prince has them.

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Gold?  Tarnished?  Hmmmm!

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KenC wrote: Gold?  Tarnished?  Hmmmm!
http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/MatSelect/corrgold.htm#Tarnishing
Gold Corrosion

Gold is the most non-reactive of all metals and is benign in all natural and industrial environments. Gold never reacts with oxygen (one of the most active elements), which means it will not rust or tarnish. Gold tarnish is very thin and shows up as a darkening of reflecting surfaces.

Compare the thermodynamic or chemical energy of metals

Gold is among the most electrically conductive of all metals. Since electricity is basically the flow of charged particles in a current, metals that are conductive allow this current to flow unimpeded. Gold is able to convey even a tiny electrical current in temperatures varying from -55° to +200° centigrade. A modern and comprehensive document on the subject is the second edition of the classic CORROSION BASICS textbook.

"Purple plague" is a brittle gold aluminum compound formed when bonding gold to aluminum. The growth of such a compound can cause failure in microelectronic interconnection bonds.

Gold reference)
  •  Perspiration (everyone's body chemistry is different, hence this is why some are more susceptible than others); for women, the time of the month can influence their body chemistry.
  •  Perfume, hair or deodorant sprays,
  •  Tarnishing during storage (storage boxes may contain organic sulfur compounds),
  •  Leaching of acid/ cleaning solutions from surface microporosity from cast jewelry; this causes corrosion locally (such porosity may even trap perspiration during wear, causing local corrosion)
  •  Preparation of vegetables such as onions and spices (many foodstuffs contain sulfur compounds and others are also acidic).
Another possible mechanism may be surface micro-porosity on the surface of investment (lost wax) cast items. This porosity may trap acids and other cleaning solutions, sprays, or perspiration and cause a local corrosion which 'creeps' over the surface of the item.
The tarnish films formed are generally harmless although unsightly and may lead to a black smudging of the skin. Such films can be easily polished off by a jeweler to restore the bright gold color.

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It's a great watch. The above description of repolishing is accurate. I haven't seen the special offer but can't imagine there would be much downside.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 01:12 pm
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Mcwright took my answer.  HA!

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Seems to be two diametrically opposing statements here...


"Gold is the most non-reactive of all metals and is benign in all natural and industrial environments.  1) Gold never reacts with oxygen (one of the most active elements), which means it will not rust or tarnish.  2) Gold tarnish is very thin and shows up as a darkening of reflecting surfaces."


Well, excuuuuse me, BUT...if gold will not rust or tarnish, then how can one say that gold tarnish is very thin....yadda, yadda, yadda?  mistake.gif


HA!

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KenC wrote: Seems to be two diametrically opposing statements here...



"Gold is the most non-reactive of all metals and is benign in all natural and industrial environments.  1) Gold never reacts with oxygen (one of the most active elements), which means it will not rust or tarnish.  2) Gold tarnish is very thin and shows up as a darkening of reflecting surfaces."



Well, excuuuuse me, BUT...if gold will not rust or tarnish, then how can one say that gold tarnish is very thin....yadda, yadda, yadda?  mistake.gif



HA!



LOL :D you noticed that too huh? :cool:

I have read it depends on how pure the gold is and if not 24K what the secondary metals are and so forth. :)

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Ok I pulled the trigger on the black dial. Pictures when it arrives

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Skipdawg wrote: KenC wrote: Seems to be two diametrically opposing statements here...



"Gold is the most non-reactive of all metals and is benign in all natural and industrial environments.  1) Gold never reacts with oxygen (one of the most active elements), which means it will not rust or tarnish.  2) Gold tarnish is very thin and shows up as a darkening of reflecting surfaces."



Well, excuuuuse me, BUT...if gold will not rust or tarnish, then how can one say that gold tarnish is very thin....yadda, yadda, yadda?  mistake.gif



HA!



LOL :D you noticed that too huh? :cool:

I have read it depends on how pure the gold is and if not 24K what the secondary metals are and so forth. :)

I believe that Vostok Euro uses 3 microns of "gold" on their watches. I don't recall seeing what the kt. used is. If it is 9 kt. (used in Europe) or so, the impurities could cause the plating to tarnish. Pure gold won't tarnish. Yes, the first article contradicts itself. :)

Alloys
To keep costs down and make Gold harder, goldworkers often alloy it with other metals, usually Copper or Silver. Mixing Gold with these other metals changes its color. The following are the major types of Gold Alloys:
Blue Gold: Gold with Iron
Green Gold: Gold mixed with a higher Silver content than Copper
Pink Gold (or Rose Gold): 50% Gold, 45% Copper and 5% Silver
White Gold: Gold with Nickel, Zinc, Copper, Tin and Manganese-Nickel is only used in White Gold because it bleaches Gold
Yellow Gold: 50% Gold, 25% Silver and 25% Copper

Measuring Gold
Jewelers indicate the amount of gold in an alloy by the Karat system.
24kt.: 100% Gold-very soft
18kt.: 75% Gold-will not tarnish; softer than 14kt., but with a deeper color
14kt.: 58.33% Gold-will not tarnish

12kt.: 50% Gold
10kt.: 41.6% Gold

less than 10kt. cannot be called Gold in the US or 9kt. in the UK.


Gold Tarnishing
To avoid tarnishing Gold, you should be aware of metallic abrasion caused by cosmetics or clothing, wet conditions that can corrode the metals used in Gold alloys, perspiration, and the chemicals in swimming pools. Higher karat Gold Jewelry will be more resistant to tarnishing.

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