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| S1 Pro-Diver Screw Up by Eyal**Must Read! | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25th, 2006 07:44 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder 
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Latest Screw Up by Invicta....Sheeeesh!!! ...and Yes I did buy one!...when will I learn...  Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: Just spoke with Eyal about the S1 pro Divers....  Ok, here is an update for everyone on the S1 Pro Diver. Eyal called me up and wanted to make me aware of a situation about the case backs. The watch was supposed to air in the summer, but when Invicta received their samples the case backs said "100M w/r" instead of the proper 200m as detailed on the dial. So Eyal sent them all back and had them remade. When they arrived they saw the 200M on there and assumed all was well. Fast forward to now... The watches sold and shipped and only after this did Eyal find out that NONE of them had been numbered for the LE designation. At this point, nothing can be done about this, but he is REALLY miffed about it. Do realize that Eyal cannot oversee production in person in all of his factories at once and sometimes he doesn't find out about these glitches until after the fact (the same can and has hapenned with other brands), but he tries to always catch these mistakes. So as it stands... there are still only going to be 3,000 in existence, but they will not be numbered. Eyal stresses that anyone unhappy with this (he understands why) can easily send them back for a refund to ShopNBC. He plans to speak to this on his next show, but wanted everyone to know ASAP which is why I am posting this. _________________  Your friendly, neighborhood watch man  Last edited by jskelton on Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:53 pm; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25th, 2006 08:23 pm |
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KenC Admin 
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STUPID NEVER STOPS! face4.gif
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25th, 2006 09:42 pm |
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NANDO-FERDZ 3T WIS 
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I feel sorry for INVICTA:(. This is an unacceptable mistake for the customers/buyers IMO:X
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25th, 2006 11:35 pm |
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MikeD 3T WIS 
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I don't blame you for buying one, Oscar. It IS a cool looking watch.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26th, 2006 12:29 am |
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e.avery 3T WIS 
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Nothing new to read here, this can be added to the blue rotor's freezing, bracelets falling apart and Invicta not warrantying them one month after the sale, screws backing out, and a million other production related problems. None of this would be an issue if they had customer service, and they had a Mechanical Engineer helping over see the designs and production. People never learn, the big boys are big because they dot the i's and cross the t's. That is what builds value in a brand and makes a brand retain its value on the secondary market. By the way Jim that was a good stunt to show pics of assemblers wearing Invicta printed on the backs of lab coats like they are some sports team. The "crew" all laughed there asses off, but you do not know who the "crew" is do you Jim.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26th, 2006 09:17 am |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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I'm not going to say the S1 is not a decent looking Watch...it is..but was much nicer a few years ago for $49!...but what is really funny about this situation is that Eyal did not know about this Blunder until customers like myself starting calling and e-mailing Slopnbc about the missing LE designation....the 1st place I looked was on the caseback to see what # I received...and well there was none... My second thought was could I be wrong about this S1 being an LE so I checked the site and it stated it was? My third thought was to call Slop and complain...that's always been good for a $ credit ...lol...but this time I was referred to a CS/Mgr. who was simply not believing what I was saying and was going to call me back...so far No Call!..Either Eyal and Jim knew all along or neither one of these self professed Experts took the Time to check the casebacks...in either case Shame on both of You!....BS seems to come in Pairs at Slop and good WIS have to suffer!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26th, 2006 09:43 am |
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KenC Admin
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Let me repeat this: STUPID NEVER STOPS! face4.gif And then add that: A pathological liar simply can't help himself! And then kinda insert that: A pathological liar enabled by a pathological con-artist is a deadly combination! puke.gif
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26th, 2006 10:36 am |
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Tony Duronio 3T WIS 
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You need to see the continuation of the thread, where BSJS is trying to justify the mistake by comparing Omega, Brietling to Instickya. The big solution......if you dont loke it, just send it back. Why is it that CONS and LIARS never look in the mirror and square there shoulders and take any responsibility????? Maybe with a slew of returns, we can scoop some up at the true value price of $49:D JK of course, truth is, the black is sweet!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26th, 2006 12:47 pm |
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e.avery 3T WIS
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From my limited experience the metal has to be prepaired properly and enough of the substrate has to be applied. It would be interesting to find someone that has one and wears it regularly.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26th, 2006 02:33 pm |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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Like Tony said...the rest of the thread is funny...especially JS's spin on it...He may be better off saying Notta..:P:P Big Kudos to Mike(raiderfan)...the only person with enough Kahonies to stand up to his BS! Below is the "spin"post sent to me by a "Friend"  Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 1798  Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject:  as written by js And that's pretty much the point of this. If some feel that they got a good deal on a good watch irregardless of LE numbers, keep them, but if they in any way are unhappy the offer is there for a refund. I think that sometimes we forget that this is a business based on deadlines. Deadlines that are sometimes hard to keep. When it runs up to the last minute I think that some things aren;t caught that normally would be if they had the time. Much in the same way car manufacturers put cars out to meet a deadline. Rarely do they come out perfect. There's the old adage... never buy a car in the 1st year of production, let them work the bugs out. My car is a 1st year production for the model it is and believe me... there were plenty of issues that had to be taken care of. No matter what you buy, you should expect perfection no matter how much or how little you paid. I feel this way, and believe me... Eyal does as well. I think we also tend to forget that most every other manufacturer has the same issues, but you hear less about it. Look when Omega released the Speedmaster Broad Arrow. For the 1st release the chronograph would not work properly on most every piece. Omega chose to do nothing about it until they were inundated with complaints, and then they issued a recall to take care of them all. Look back at the horror stories posted on various forums about the service center for omega USA. How many times have you read "I told you to send it to Bienne!" I bring this up because I am a HUGE Omega fan, but even they mess up. Look at Breitling forums, Rolex forums, the list goes on. And these are not $139 watches folks. There's always the cute references to what 3rd world country someone believes Invictas are made in. That's fine, but let me tell you... you would be shocked beyond belief to know where the vast majority of "Swiss watches" are REALLY made. I bet you'd love to know that over 80% of the Swiss watch industry uses China for cases, bracelets, crystals and dials. I'm not revealing something that no one knows about, but many people just don't want to believe it. I recently found out where the case/bracelet/dial of one of my favorite pricey Swiss watches was made... and although I already pretty much knew it, seeing it made me wish I had not spent the thousands I did on it. It boils down to this though: No matter what you spent, you should ALWAYS get as close to perfection as is possible. Will mistakes happen? Yes. Invicta works hard to produce good quality watches for small prices. People wonder why a big name brand costs so much more? Because if this issue had happened to them, they could chuck all of those case backs, and remake them from scratch. All of this is factored into the price. If the S1 Pro Diver was $1,000 instead of $139 then Invicta could have as well without affecting the price of the watch. This of course is assuming that they could have still met their deadline. They work on very tight margins on most every watch. You could not build the S1 pro Diver in your basement for the cost of the materials. Sure Invicta like eveyone else is in business to profit, but do you really think there is a lot of profit on a watch like that? Especially since Miyota has raised their rpices. What most don;t nkow is that Eyal sucked up the cost hike on the latest Pro Divers so as to not raise prices until 2007. So there is even less profit, and less room to correct costly small mistakes. I know from speaking to Eyal that QA/QC is a prioroty for him, but unfortunately it s a thing that takes time to work out. Invicta has gotten better, and I hope you noticed that they correct their issues more easily than in the past. more efficiently, and without argument. Are there occasional glitches? (like Mike's PP 7750) YES, but less than in the past. _________________ Your friendly, neighborhood watch man  Last edited by jjs on Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:23 pm; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26th, 2006 04:46 pm |
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MikeD 3T WIS
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My reply to his spin would be that you don't justify your mistakes with someone else's mistakes. The people he was talking to didn't have issues with Breitling, they had issues with Incrapta. If he keeps it up the sheeple will catch on and start grazing elsewhere. As for the Invicta labcoats, I was ROTFL at that, too. WOW, it was such a clean, professional looking outfit. All this time I thought Incraptas were made in a dirty garage somewhere in India or somewhere. I never knew they were so High Tech with those pretty white coats and all. I'm sure everyone there wears those crispy white coats everyday, and not just when the photographers show up.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27th, 2006 07:41 am |
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oagaspar Site Founder
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MikeD wrote: This is Hilariuos Mike..."The Sheeple" .....I think they are already finding new grazing grounds!...The snbc fora is nothing but JS arguing with members and giving ridiculous spins on everything...and the guys in the White Labcoats are from the Invicta Funny Farm...where all Invictaphiles end up if they keep Buying Invictums....   My reply to his spin would be that you don't justify your mistakes with someone else's mistakes. The people he was talking to didn't have issues with Breitling, they had issues with Incrapta.
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