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Posted: Sun Nov 30th, 2008 01:45 pm

Tony Duronio
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teddyhanna wrote: When I sold the Kobold on the bay, Paypal placed a pending-hold status on my transaction stating on large $$$ trans they would not release the funds until the buyer replied in the feedback section (Bay) he received the watch, or they wanted the usps tracking, so they could see, it was delivered.

I went to Paypal "DETAILS" of the transaction, where it explained. I also called the Paypal cust-ser and they explained it to me. They stated It's to protect the seller and buyer. Once the buyer who purchased the Kobold placed a positive feedback, I contacted Paypal immediately, so they could get right on it.

Teddy,

I might be inclined to ship if the tracking was the only issue, but what if the buyer takes his good old time to leave feedback, heck I've had many people never leave feedback....for a 2K watch maybe, but $200????

Posted: Sun Nov 30th, 2008 02:29 pm

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Tony, I have been hit with the same thing too recently. I was the buyer. This happened as it is a new rule of Paypal which helps to protect buyers. BS I know but it is imposed.

The seller, which has LESS THAN 10 positive FEEDBACKS as a SELLER, called me and told me that he would not ship the item, worth $200+, to me when he did not get the fund inside his PAYPAL account. So I called him and based on trust, I was taking the risk actually, I told him to cancel and refund me the payment and I paid him via ordinary "SEND MONEY" way. So he got the fund and shipped the item to me.

In your case as the seller, I am afraid you have to ship the watch out to the buyer in order to get the fund. Remember to send with tracking number as a PROOF.

Hope it helps.

Posted: Sun Nov 30th, 2008 02:44 pm

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watchboy wrote: Tony, I have been hit with the same thing too recently. I was the buyer. This happened as it is a new rule of Paypal which helps to protect buyers. BS I know but it is imposed.

The seller, which has LESS THAN 10 positive FEEDBACKS as a SELLER, called me and told me that he would not ship the item, worth $200+, to me when he did not get the fund inside his PAYPAL account. So I called him and based on trust, I was taking the risk actually, I told him to cancel and refund me the payment and I paid him via ordinary "SEND MONEY" way. So he got the fund and shipped the item to me.

In your case as the seller, I am afraid you have to ship the watch out to the buyer in order to get the fund. Remember to send with tracking number as a PROOF.

Hope it helps.

Yeah, it helps my friend...but I'm not happy:X Good to hear from you...I hope you and your family are well:)

Posted: Sun Nov 30th, 2008 02:48 pm

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Tony, all is well here.

All you have to do after this is, sell some cheap stuff and listed them for $0.01 to get at least 10 feedbacks as SELLER. Then this problem will be gone. ;)

Posted: Sun Nov 30th, 2008 02:53 pm

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Tony you got PM

Posted: Sun Nov 30th, 2008 03:56 pm

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Nabco wrote: I did a search on PayPal, they posted an amendment to their users agreement in March 2008 that says at their discretion they can put a hold on funds for up to 21 days if they feel there is any kind of risk with the transaction. Not sure if they feal the risk is on your side Tony or the buyers, i guess it's possible that the buyer has had some questionable transactions....who knows.

As they said in the email the hold can be lifted if the buyer leaves you positive feedback....I would try that, ask him to leave you positive feedback.

Not sure what would happen if you canceled the entire transaction...I'm sure both eBay and PayPal would give you some grief over that.....what you could do is say you dropped the item and broke it when you were packing it and it can not be repaired...that might work.

Now that I'm thinking about it a couple months ago i bought a piece of Cherokee pottery from a pretty well known artist that my wife collects...it was kind of a rare piece and it sold really cheap, the seller sent me an email and said she broke it while packing...she probably got a better offer offline

The only problem with this is how to get a positive feedback from the buyer when you haven't shipped the watch yet due to incomplete payment!

I'm with you, Tony...I would never ship until the payment was "complete." I've sold a ton on eBay and never ran across this bull$**t.

GENERAL RECOMMENDATION TO ALL:.........NEVER log on to your PayPal account or your eBay account from an email. ONLY log on by using your normal bookmark or by typing in the URL. This is the ONLY way to make sure you are logging in to the real site. This goes for your bank accounts, etc. too.

Posted: Sun Nov 30th, 2008 04:11 pm

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pacifichrono wrote: Nabco wrote: I did a search on PayPal, they posted an amendment to their users agreement in March 2008 that says at their discretion they can put a hold on funds for up to 21 days if they feel there is any kind of risk with the transaction. Not sure if they feal the risk is on your side Tony or the buyers, i guess it's possible that the buyer has had some questionable transactions....who knows.

As they said in the email the hold can be lifted if the buyer leaves you positive feedback....I would try that, ask him to leave you positive feedback.

Not sure what would happen if you canceled the entire transaction...I'm sure both eBay and PayPal would give you some grief over that.....what you could do is say you dropped the item and broke it when you were packing it and it can not be repaired...that might work.

Now that I'm thinking about it a couple months ago i bought a piece of Cherokee pottery from a pretty well known artist that my wife collects...it was kind of a rare piece and it sold really cheap, the seller sent me an email and said she broke it while packing...she probably got a better offer offline

The only problem with this is how to get a positive feedback from the buyer when you haven't shipped the watch yet due to incomplete payment!

I'm with you, Tony...I would never ship until the payment was "complete." I've sold a ton on eBay and never ran across this bull$**t.

GENERAL RECOMMENDATION TO ALL:.........NEVER log on to your PayPal account or your eBay account from an email. ONLY log on by using your normal bookmark or by typing in the URL. This is the ONLY way to make sure you are logging in to the real site. This goes for your bank accounts, etc. too.

I'm with you, Tony...I would never ship until the payment was "complete." I've sold a ton on eBay and never ran across this bull$**t.

First time for me also Tom....even with satisfactory transaction I think this is going to make people shy away from using E-bay.

Thanks for the advice on the log-in

Posted: Sun Nov 30th, 2008 04:14 pm

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I have a rating of 100% and only bought or sold 20 items...I had this happen to me once this yr. I sold my Penn State football tix's and when the person who purchased the tix's gave me a good rating the funds were released. So I got my funds a week later....

Posted: Mon Dec 1st, 2008 10:31 am

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I just had a positive experience, I bought a Wii from a seller with 100% positive feedback. She never shipped it, although she gave me a song and dance about a tracking # being in her husbands truck. Finally I filed a complaint via PayPal, and after she had not responded to them in 10 days, I got my refund. Sucks, because now I have to track down a Wii locally, but at least I got every penny back! I've used their guarantee in the past too, where someone sold me a used camera but never stated it was used. I disputed, Paypal agreed w/ me, and I got my refund.

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