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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 03:25 am

BENARUS
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Yes the Stealth will get black luminove which can be called decent

Nizzler wrote: yeah, i was (sort of) kidding about the tritium... I'd rather stealth.

Question (and pardon my ignorance)... is it still possible to have decent lume with a stealth design?

Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 04:07 am

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for your 2 Cents.

As the third Benarus will will be a bit less a tool diver I think a MOP could be a nice option. I have an Invitca with MOP and also a Bathys. Both dials are very nice especially in different lights.
You are right, as I will always try to stay in the affordable $500 market it will be difficult to make a GMT or Automatic Chrono. But exceptions can happen. (See the Fricker Diver)
My favourite size is also 44mm , but many ask for a 42mm case as also for something larger and I think a 42mm is still a good size, the Barracuda is also only 42mm.

The second hand:
The Barracuda and the Sea Devil second hand are not the same (the one from the SD is smaller)For the third case I have planned a different style but hour and minute hand will be the same and the 4 numbers are all the same style on every model.
I will try to keep the hour/minute hands and numbers as something typical for Benarus but there can be some exceptions sometimes.

JDBuckwell wrote: My 2 Cents:

I believe using a unique dial color like a seafoam green is a smart move.

Leave the MOP for Invicta to play with—it just reduces the clean lines of a good tool diver.

Using an automatic GMT or Chrono movement is going to price it out of the "cool yet affordable" range, and considering the current economy, the sub $500 market is the only place you'd want to be in.

Keep Benarus Divers in the larger case sizes—sub 42mm cases just look "femme".

Lastly, (and most important in my book as a branding specialist), keep the unique second hand that you have been using for all of your divers. It is a distinctive, signature element. It is what drew me to buy your Barracuda, and It was the unique "signature" hands of the Doxa Divers that drew me, (and I know many others), to their watches.

Hope this helps Ralf...yourock.gif

Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 10:05 am

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BENARUS wrote: for your 2 Cents.

As the third Benarus will will be a bit less a tool diver I think a MOP could be a nice option. I have an Invitca with MOP and also a Bathys. Both dials are very nice especially in different lights.
You are right, as I will always try to stay in the affordable $500 market it will be difficult to make a GMT or Automatic Chrono. But exceptions can happen. (See the Fricker Diver)
My favourite size is also 44mm , but many ask for a 42mm case as also for something larger and I think a 42mm is still a good size, the Barracuda is also only 42mm.

The second hand:
The Barracuda and the Sea Devil second hand are not the same (the one from the SD is smaller)For the third case I have planned a different style but hour and minute hand will be the same and the 4 numbers are all the same style on every model.
I will try to keep the hour/minute hands and numbers as something typical for Benarus but there can be some exceptions sometimes.

JDBuckwell wrote: My 2 Cents:

I believe using a unique dial color like a seafoam green is a smart move.

Leave the MOP for Invicta to play with—it just reduces the clean lines of a good tool diver.

Using an automatic GMT or Chrono movement is going to price it out of the "cool yet affordable" range, and considering the current economy, the sub $500 market is the only place you'd want to be in.

Keep Benarus Divers in the larger case sizes—sub 42mm cases just look "femme".

Lastly, (and most important in my book as a branding specialist), keep the unique second hand that you have been using for all of your divers. It is a distinctive, signature element. It is what drew me to buy your Barracuda, and It was the unique "signature" hands of the Doxa Divers that drew me, (and I know many others), to their watches.

Hope this helps Ralf...yourock.gif

I thought Invicta used Mother of Plastic!

Seriously, I don't think MOP belongs on a diver...period...end of story... (jmo)...and I also think the the 2 brands you reered to lack the integrity for you to model Benarus after. 42mm is a good size for me...as for sub 42mm looking "femme", that is all a matter of wrist size...design to the market!

Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 01:11 pm

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I think we've all given Ralf plenty of ideas, I think it's time to sit back and let Ralf come up with some preliminary drawings of what he'd like to see in the next Benarus...

Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 01:35 pm

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Divers , 42mm case , miyota auto , seafoam color face , white hands wide enough with an orange or red or blue outline on the hands to accent ..... date at 4 if possible , tight but smooth bezel that sets up clean on 12 ..... this watch will sell out at 100 very fast and create some buzz as well .....

Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 07:46 pm

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I would definitely be in on the stealth, 45-48mm, black strap/bracelet or maybe both to interchange, and definitely a 3 hand auto. Where do I sign up??? yahoo.gif

Posted: Wed Jan 7th, 2009 11:59 am

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I think that so far you made your success with your own design and you should keep it that way. IMHO, a diver's watch should be big and thick (42 to 47mm and 14 to 20mm tall) and easy to read. I like oversize plongeur hands. I would not do any homage or replica, they are all over the place already. Definitely an auto movement, gmt would be great and i know that Sellita have good movements that are cheaper than ETA. I think that Seiko auto movements are also available. If not, the Myota movement is fine with me, not perfect but cheap, well known, reliable and very accurate when adjusted. I would not go with any chineese movement even if they really improved in quality (specially Seagull movements), they still have bad reputation and would probably turn off many potential buyers starting with me. No skeletton back unless you use a nice decorated movement (Myota is not so nice to look at) and i realy don't like MOP dials. I think that the cushion case, like used on older Seiko or Doxa would be very nice, rated to min 300m to 1000m with the same finish choices of the SD. So i'm in for a retro or original design. As for the dial colors, i like your actual choices but would be open to see somthing different. The most important to me is that you keep the rugged and instrument look that you have now. That's your signature.

Posted: Wed Jan 7th, 2009 12:40 pm

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Stealth will definitely come but 44mm sure strap and bracelet
as always and it is also 3 hands auto

Hope you can wait some days;)
ChesterDogg wrote: I would definitely be in on the stealth, 45-48mm, black strap/bracelet or maybe both to interchange, and definitely a 3 hand auto. Where do I sign up??? yahoo.gif

Posted: Wed Jan 7th, 2009 12:52 pm

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I guess you will like the #3.
Cushion case, but not like Seiko or Doxa, 44mm diameter about 15mm thick, 500m, domed sapphire, Miyota movement, no MOP dial( has to less fans) easy to ready 4 numbers dial and big hands as always . For the early pre order again the choices of the case finish like the SD.

DM71 wrote: I think that so far you made your success with your own design and you should keep it that way. IMHO, a diver's watch should be big and thick (42 to 47mm and 14 to 20mm tall) and easy to read. I like oversize plongeur hands. I would not do any homage or replica, they are all over the place already. Definitely an auto movement, gmt would be great and i know that Sellita have good movements that are cheaper than ETA. I think that Seiko auto movements are also available. If not, the Myota movement is fine with me, not perfect but cheap, well known, reliable and very accurate when adjusted. I would not go with any chineese movement even if they really improved in quality (specially Seagull movements), they still have bad reputation and would probably turn off many potential buyers starting with me. No skeletton back unless you use a nice decorated movement (Myota is not so nice to look at) and i realy don't like MOP dials. I think that the cushion case, like used on older Seiko or Doxa would be very nice, rated to min 300m to 1000m with the same finish choices of the SD. So i'm in for a retro or original design. As for the dial colors, i like your actual choices but would be open to see somthing different. The most important to me is that you keep the rugged and instrument look that you have now. That's your signature.

Last edited on Wed Jan 7th, 2009 12:52 pm by BENARUS

Posted: Wed Jan 7th, 2009 02:18 pm

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It sounds good to me Ralf. The dome sapphire crystal is also a good idea. When are you planing to show the first drawings? I really like the old Bull Head and cushion cases used in the 60's and 70's... I think i need to see a doctor. Why this sickness never ends? Don't we already have enough watches? I guess not! Let me take a pill and i will be ok.

Posted: Wed Jan 7th, 2009 02:39 pm

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I guess in about a week I can show you first drawings,
hey and don't take a pill you can never have enough and taking pills can cause other problems;) watch collecting is not a serious sickness:) , I bought another big watchbox two days ago, that mine will have a good home

DM71 wrote: It sounds good to me Ralf. The dome sapphire crystal is also a good idea. When are you planing to show the first drawings? I really like the old Bull Head and cushion cases used in the 60's and 70's... I think i need to see a doctor. Why this sickness never ends? Don't we already have enough watches? I guess not! Let me take a pill and i will be ok.

Posted: Wed Jan 7th, 2009 03:20 pm

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Ok doctor, i will wait for those drawings then, i allready feel better! ;)

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