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 Posted: Sat Jan 17th, 2009 04:05 pm
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captobvious wrote: I remember reading about that and at first it didn't bother me too much... but the second hand jumping so far forward after setting was too much.  I'm happy to say that my new one does not display either of the above issues.  ThumbsUp02.gif

Here is a chinese or japanese movement that has the same problem, this one has a 9 o'clock second hand with date, found in many reps watches it does hack.

For educational purpose only, draw your own conclusion:) I'm not saying that the cl 888 is a bad movement, especially if it has been refine in swizerland (who knows)crap.gif

























Bollowed pictures from other link above so you can compare:)

CL888...


ST16...





 

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That is a Dixmont-Guangzhou (DG) movement.  I'm not sure which variant has the sub-seconds at 9 o'clock, but it does have the DG circle crown logo under the balance wheel.

DG logo


Nanning (NN) makes almost identical movements to DG and their logo is two N's

DG logo



I have a DG movement in my modern Timex automatic watch.







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 Posted: Sat Jan 17th, 2009 04:22 pm
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gigfy wrote: That is a Dixmont-Guangzhou (DG) movement.  I'm not sure which variant has the sub-seconds at 9 o'clock, but it does have the DG circle crown logo under the balance wheel.

DG logo


Nanning (NN) makes almost identical movements to DG and their logo is two N's

DG logo



I have a DG movement in my modern Timex automatic watch.



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Thanks for the info, I knew someone would know this logoThumbsUp02.gif

http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/index.php?title=PTS_Resources

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 Posted: Sat Jan 17th, 2009 04:48 pm
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great info....here's a link to the history of the Claro-Semag and the new caliber CL-888hand6.gif

http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/index.php?title=Claro-Semag

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 Posted: Sat Jan 17th, 2009 04:57 pm
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This one is funny:)crap.gif

Source: http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/index.php?title=Technica_Swiss_Ebauches

Technica Swiss Ebauches

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The US owned Invicta Watch Company have long used mechanical movements from well-known sources such as ETA and Miyota. Recently they have expeanded their range to include watches with mechanical movements described as "Technica Swiss Ebauches". When questioned, Invicta have stated that Technica Swiss Ebauches is not a company, but simply a brand registered to Invicta. There has been speculation that Invicta were running a movement-finishing facility in Switzerland, but they have been found to have no holdings in that country. Later there were claims that the Technica movements were sourced from Japan, although they did not match the appearance of any known Japanese calibres.

When questioned specifically about the Technica 1902, which looks identical to the Sea-Gull ST1902, Eyal Lalo owner of Invicta admitted that it was in fact assembled from Sea-Gull parts, with Sea-Gull technical assistance, at an Invicta-owned facility in Korea.

The name Technica Swiss Ebauches has caused confusion with some consumers who assume that it implies a certain amount of Swiss content in the movement, however it is important to note that Invicta watches marked as having Technica Swiss Ebauches movements are never labelled either "Swiss Made" or "Swiss Movement". Conversly, Invicta watches labelled "Swiss Made" never have TSA movements.

The term Swiss Ebauches Microtechnique has also been used apparently interchangeably with Technica Swiss Ebauches to describe Invicta's Chinese sourced movements.

Some known Chinese calibres rebadged as Technica Swiss Ebauches

Sea-Gull ST19

Sea-Gull ST36

Standard skeleton

Hangzhou 2189 & 2198

Shanghai 2H

Retrieved from "http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/index.php?title=Technica_Swiss_Ebauches"

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 Posted: Sat Jan 17th, 2009 05:01 pm
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Then you will like these also:

Croton CR8315 = DG28
http://www.watchgeeks.net/viewtopic.php?t=9918&highlight=cr8315

Invicta French Ebauche = DG/NN
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=217605


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gigfy wrote: Then you will like these also:

Croton CR8315 = DG28
http://www.watchgoobers.net/viewtopic.php?t=9918&highlight=cr8315

Invicta French Ebauche = DG/NN
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=217605


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gigfy

ROTFLOL!  The French Ebauche :D

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gigfy wrote: Then you will like these also:

Croton CR8315 = DG28
http://www.watchgoobers.net/viewtopic.php?t=9918&highlight=cr8315

Invicta French Ebauche = DG/NN
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=217605


Cheers,
gigfy

not an approved link..we do not allow links to that forum please read the rules in the OT section...TY

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 Posted: Sat Jan 17th, 2009 06:53 pm
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it's too bad most all the good info on Invicta and the French/Swiss ebauches were lost in the 2005 WUS crash which lost all these posts from the old Invicta Watch forum there :D

...I 'm sure most of us here all remember the heated discussions on this subject from back then as senior members of WUS and ex-mods of that Invicta forum which at one time was the single largest watch forum on the web and know more on the subject of Invicta than most anyone hand6.gif 

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