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| Posted: Thu Dec 30th, 2010 09:57 pm |
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afc14284 3T WIS 
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Hey guys, I think these thread is mentioned on wikileaks it's called the DOXA Report....
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| Posted: Fri Dec 31st, 2010 02:40 am |
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watcher 3T WIS 
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afc14284 wrote: Hey guys, I think these thread is mentioned on wikileaks Hehe
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| Posted: Fri Dec 31st, 2010 05:51 am |
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Hammerfjord Moderator 
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I read the same crap everywhere from Doxa's courageous knights who would give them souls for the ghost of a grail without looking for the cost! It really feels like they had a vision and will sacrifice for it! Here's an exemple where one of those knights(henry*) arrives to save his grail from the disgrace:http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0_T6fVOSVyMJ:forums.watchuseek.com/f2/have-doxa-recover-all-controversy-past-484611-post3557700.html+doxa+controversy&cd=2&hl=no&ct=clnk&gl=no Now: Explain them 2 things if they may have enough brain to understand... -WHEN A PRODUCT IS MADE BY A CHEAPER WAY, YOU SHOULD PAY LESS MONEY FOR IT, EVEN THE QUALITY-STANDARDS ARE MET: IT'S CALLED JUSTICE ON THE FREE MARKET! -WHY PAYING MORE THAN YOU SHOULD THEN? JUST FOR THE PLEASURE TO FEEL LIKE AN OPULENT PERSON WHO WIPE HIS A$$ WITH MONEY? DO YOU RESPECT MONEY,YOURSELF AND OTHERS THIS WAY? You don't get smarter,richer or brighter when you use money for nothing: You just get føcked. That's my word to all posers who think that the strass is what's making the man under the shell. Save your money for lower times: Be smart!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26th, 2011 03:29 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Taking out an old skeleton from the closet, but hey, OceanicTime suddenly found out that Walca Far-East was not only producing for us but they was also producing for THEM http://oceanictime.blogspot.com/2011/10/doxa-shark-ceramica-xl-forbidden-diver.html
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20th, 2011 06:43 pm |
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eddiea 3T WIS
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Hammerfjord wrote:Taking out an old skeleton from the closet, but hey, OceanicTime suddenly found out that Walca Far-East was not only producing for us but they was also producing for THEM Of course they are, and the point is not , I don't care where the watch is made as long as I can afford it? I look the other way but a full, honest disclosure by the manufacturer ... if 49% of a watch is made in China , that's cool but then ,I want to see that reflected on the price ... and Doxa, definitely do not reflect that . Last edited on Sun Nov 20th, 2011 06:44 pm by eddiea |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21st, 2011 01:33 am |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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eddiea wrote:Hammerfjord wrote: That's mostly what we been expressing all the way through this thread if you been reading it... Doxa's prices are not justified by a Swiss manufacture of the pieces. What is funny right now is that the name Doxa is all over pure Chinese made watches: So finally , they sort of came out of the closet after many years of denial...
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21st, 2011 07:21 pm |
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mrneddles 3T WIS 
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HammerfjordSo finally , they sort of came out of the closet after many years of denial... Has DOXA officially come clean on this issue? I can't stomach WUS and haven't been monitoring the issue.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 22nd, 2011 12:32 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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mrneddles wrote:HammerfjordSo finally , they sort of came out of the closet after many years of denial... Has DOXA officially come clean on this issue? I can't stomach WUS and haven't been monitoring the issue. No, Doxa still says the same again and again...Last claims was "...The DOXA SUB is 80-90% Swiss made..." The thing is that right now, with the 50% law, we fall there: “Products are considered Swiss products if they are fundamentally local products or if they have been completely manufactured in Switzerland. In the case of products that have been only partly manufactured in Switzerland, the rule applies that the Swiss portion of the production cost (including basic materials, semi-finished products, accessories, wages and production overhead excluding distribution costs) must be at least 50%. " Also from the Federation of the Swiss watch industry : "This law is based on a concept according to which Swiss quality depends on the amount of work actually carried out on a watch in Switzerland, even if some foreign components are used in it." So if I understand well, exactly as a Swiss movement is categorized as "Swiss-Made" , the watch has to get 50% of involved cost from Switzerland to deserve the "Swiss-Made" appellation : Put a good grade 100% Swiss movement of 150$ value and fit it in a 100% Chinese case/bracelet/dial/hands at value 100$ , the watch is already 60% "Swiss". Put over that 250$ in full assembly and testings in Switzerland, the watch total cost is 500$ and is then 80% Swiss so speaking...  Right now, since years, we still wait for the Walca workshop´s pictures from Bienne...?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 22nd, 2011 02:55 pm |
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Hammerfjord Moderator
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Last comment from Doxa on them forum when a guy bring the Walca Far East controversy with pictures of the site and ask somehow if Doxa has it's divers made there: "This has come up time and again, Walca is owned by the Jenny's. Walca has production facilities in Hong Kong/China and Switzerland. Walca produces "private label" watches for clients, with the option of Swiss made or Asian made." Cheers, Andy Customer Care DOXA Watches The thing is that when you search on Google-Earth about Doxa´s only address and office in Bienne(Switzerland) as they stipulate on them site: Montres DOXA SA Rue de Zurich 23 CH-2500 Bienne 8 Switzerland You will find a building apparently divided in two companies: One is ROFIN Baasel Swiss AG , the other one is WALCA Trad.Corp AG. No Doxa signs there... It's WALCA: Is it offices or is there any factory...Mystery. So WALCA produces watches in Switzerland and also in China with it's 2 factories? Those guys are saying that the Walca Far East is there to meet the Chinese demand after cheap watches: Like those! http://www.doxa-in-asia.com/en/product_details.php?cid=37&id=303 Who are still bearing the "Swiss-Made" label...? WTF? Even they are manufactured in Hong-kong by WALCA F.E ? Yes, of course, the 50% law... So why Doxa's divers should be REALLY made in Switzerland, if they are from the very same WALCA company and subjected to the same 50% law who authorize those bad Chinese "Dolexa" wearing the "Swiss-Made" label? Because they say it.....
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| Posted: Tue Nov 22nd, 2011 04:16 pm |
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mrneddles 3T WIS
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So DOXA as a company is still FOS. Meh.
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