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 Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2006 04:19 pm
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We have a lot of Orient fans and many of us have Myota autos and Seikos, which Co. makes the best movements as far as accuracy, reliability, and serviceability on there entry level autos?

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I'd have to say they are all pretty equal as far as reliability. But, I believe the Orient watches have proven to be a tad more accurate than the Miyota. I almost never pay any attention to accuarcy (personally) as I am always changing watches. So, I do favor the Miyota due to its ability to be hand wound.

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I hand wind my Orients and Seikos by shaking them for about 15 - 30 seconds..........it's much quicker than the other way....not to mention when changing watches every day, you don't need to insure it has a full "power wind".  I guess that's why they call them "automatics"!  When I get nostalgic for handwinding, I grab one of my Trias Untias or Poljot's. :D

 

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I'd have to say they are all pretty equal as far as reliability. But, I believe the Orient watches have proven to be a tad more accurate than the Miyota. I almost never pay any attention to accuarcy (personally) as I am always changing watches. So, I do favor the Miyota due to its ability to be hand wound.

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I have to lean towards the Orient. They seem to sweep smoother etc. I beleive they all run a tad fast though:D

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anyone ever zap any of the movements on a demag. to see it that helped any of them.  One of my friends swears by it on all of his cheaper auto's, I need to call him up about these movements. 

Do the Seiko's have any coating on the movements to prevent rust, because I swear I touched one with clean hands and watched it start to oxidize?

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15-30 seconds won't cut it for me. I often change watches at night and my Seiko's and Orient's won't make it thru the night unless I put it on the winder for 5 minutes. Or, I have to stand there and wave my arm around for a hundred count. Thanks, but I'd just as soon wind the watch in your 15-30 second window and have the watch set for the night. :):)

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I hand wind my Orients and Seikos by shaking them for about 15 - 30 seconds..........it's much quicker than the other way....not to mention when changing watches every day, you don't need to insure it has a full "power wind".  I guess that's why they call them "automatics"!  When I get nostalgic for handwinding, I grab one of my Trias Untias or Poljot's. :D

 

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I'd have to say they are all pretty equal as far as reliability. But, I believe the Orient watches have proven to be a tad more accurate than the Miyota. I almost never pay any attention to accuarcy (personally) as I am always changing watches. So, I do favor the Miyota due to its ability to be hand wound.

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Seiko and Orient are equal on the reliability end, with Citizen slightly below.  All my entry level Japanese movements have proved to be amazingly accurate for the price.  I'm basically sold on the Japanese watches, and I prefer them to Swiss at this point.  Just my opinion.  Terms subject to change.  Results not typical.  Your mileage my vary.  Not valid in Arkansas.

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opps!  I thought you said you changed watches every day, and a 15 to 30 count is plenty to kick start it for wrist wear...but, to each his own!

 

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15-30 seconds won't cut it for me. I often change watches at night and my Seiko's and Orient's won't make it thru the night unless I put it on the winder for 5 minutes. Or, I have to stand there and wave my arm around for a hundred count. Thanks, but I'd just as soon wind the watch in your 15-30 second window and have the watch set for the night. :):)

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I hand wind my Orients and Seikos by shaking them for about 15 - 30 seconds..........it's much quicker than the other way....not to mention when changing watches every day, you don't need to insure it has a full "power wind".  I guess that's why they call them "automatics"!  When I get nostalgic for handwinding, I grab one of my Trias Untias or Poljot's. :D

 

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I'd have to say they are all pretty equal as far as reliability. But, I believe the Orient watches have proven to be a tad more accurate than the Miyota. I almost never pay any attention to accuarcy (personally) as I am always changing watches. So, I do favor the Miyota due to its ability to be hand wound.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 29th, 2006 01:23 pm
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Ken, I'm talking about putting on a different watch when I go to bed.:D I will put on a Seiko or Orient becuase of the great lumn. But, I have to lay there with my arm swinging back and forth a hundred times or the watch isn't always running by morning. And, sometimes I get up in the night and change my watch when I can't sleep. Cheeps has this problem (not sleeping). So, hand winding is preferrable at 3:00 AM to waving my arm. During the day, I agree with you. :D

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opps!  I thought you said you changed watches every day, and a 15 to 30 count is plenty to kick start it for wrist wear...but, to each his own!

 

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15-30 seconds won't cut it for me. I often change watches at night and my Seiko's and Orient's won't make it thru the night unless I put it on the winder for 5 minutes. Or, I have to stand there and wave my arm around for a hundred count. Thanks, but I'd just as soon wind the watch in your 15-30 second window and have the watch set for the night. :):)

KenC wrote:
I hand wind my Orients and Seikos by shaking them for about 15 - 30 seconds..........it's much quicker than the other way....not to mention when changing watches every day, you don't need to insure it has a full "power wind".  I guess that's why they call them "automatics"!  When I get nostalgic for handwinding, I grab one of my Trias Untias or Poljot's. :D

 

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I'd have to say they are all pretty equal as far as reliability. But, I believe the Orient watches have proven to be a tad more accurate than the Miyota. I almost never pay any attention to accuarcy (personally) as I am always changing watches. So, I do favor the Miyota due to its ability to be hand wound.

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I keep all my autos on winders and never have a problem with them.

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With the number of watches I have, if I kept all the autos on winders, I'd blackout the neighborhood. :P:D;)

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I keep all my autos on winders and never have a problem with them.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 30th, 2006 03:17 pm
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I second that one!:D  I have 3 on Orbita winders and 1 Zeno winder.  That is all I want, I need something to do on Sunday nights now that WSS is no longer on.  I could do a lot worse things than winding watches I guess.

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