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You all Know I have the Kobold Artic Diver  Rating:  Rating
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 Posted: Sun Jan 17th, 2010 08:27 pm
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haven't open the Artic Diver, but according to Kobold site I should have a Top grade 2824 to their description

the Arctic Diver "SWISS"
Ref. KD 832121-C
Case: stainless steel (surgical grade); sandblasted (matte) surface finish; inner case made from soft iron (cylinder, back plate, dial plate); secondary shock resistance system (SAS) 

dimension 
45.85 mm diameter (bezel end to bezel end);
49.65 mm diameter overall (bezel end to crown end);
55.25 mm length overall (lug end to lug end);
24 mm lug width (between lugs; measures strap width);
15.25 mm height overall
154.6 g. weight (with strap attached to watch) 
crystal synthetic sapphire; domed, anti-reflective (inside only); extra-thick
crown screw-locked; signed 
bezel rotating; uni-directional with count-up minute scale
back stainless steel (surgical grade); screw-locked
ratings* waterproof (50 atm/1,650 ft with crown locked);
(3 atm/100 ft with crown unlocked); antimagnetic (80,000 a/m); shock-resistant; pressure-proof to 50 atmospheres;

Movement: ETA 2824-A2; Swiss-made;
winding automatic mechanism
jewels 21 
balance Glucydur
mainspring Nivarox 1
functions hours, minutes, seconds;
other 40 hours power reserve, integrated shock resistance system (INCABLOC)

*all ratings in accordance with the strict regulations set forth by the German Industrial Standard Bureau, DIN

What to do you think true or false???? Please post your opinion..
one week from today I will open the Artic Diver I hope it's according to their description.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 17th, 2010 08:37 pm
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i would be surprised if their description was not accurate.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 17th, 2010 09:25 pm
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What is strange I posted this at the Doxa forum, it disappear within one minute mistake.gif They have been espose top grade my a$$. WUS is not what they were, what you have is a bunch of kool-aid drinking suck a$$e$ The title was LET Have Some FUN I have lost total respect for these Kool_Aid drinking Jack a$$eSThumbsUp02.gif crap.gifcrap.gif

Of course this is just my humble opinionyahoo.gifThumbsup3.gif

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 Posted: Sun Jan 17th, 2010 09:59 pm
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Amazing my my post reappeartoon1.gifat the Doxa forum

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 Posted: Sun Jan 17th, 2010 10:00 pm
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I would bet that it doesn't have flared  spokes on the balance wheel!

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 Posted: Sun Jan 17th, 2010 10:05 pm
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From my side, as I ever said, those price for a 2824-2 ETA inside are too high. It is my personnal opinion that for this price range, I want an inhouse.
Well: Most of 2824-2 in good watches got the Incabloc. Nothing SO damn special there... Kobold got this soft iron housing: For anti-magnetism as I understand it.
Seriously, I live in the Arctic: 68.5 grades North. I worked 3 winters at 70.4 grades norths and had much of -35 dg C there: When it's as cold as that, you cover yourself enough ,your watch is protected and your wrist warm it anyway: Never heard of a guy who had his mechanic watch freezing since he had it on it's wrist. I've made the experience with a Tissot T-touch in titanium puted on a steel bench outside, who took half hour to go from hand temperature to -5 dg C. So a watch is far to freez at once even it's cold outside.
The anti-magnetic??? When I'm outside in the wind at -35 , I don't need it or I should hang around magnetic fields who would even be bad for my health(high tension convertors for exemple)...No polar expedition there: You're a high-tension pole worker in the arctic maybe...??? Get yourself a Rolex Millegausse if you really need a watch for that job.
I tell you what: A simple good 2824-2 ETA incabloc is good on your hand even you hang outside in -50 gr C like it can be sometimes in the plains up here. You don't need a Kobold for that: A good Marathon SAR will do it as good.
If your watch have to freez, it will anyway.
To conclude: Yes I believe that you will find those feratures in the Kobold but you can visit the Arctic in winter with another good automatic watch without experiencing troubles...
I will make soon a test actualy! I will let one of my watches: Maybe my SAR to have a night alone outside in -15 dg C and we will see what happen! Matter of weeks before I do that
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Last edited on Sun Jan 17th, 2010 10:09 pm by Hammerfjord

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I take it as a yes, I don't know until next Sundaythankyou.gifThumbsUp02.gifHammerfjord wrote:
From my side, as I ever said, those price for a 2824-2 ETA inside are too high. It is my personnal opinion that for this price range, I want an inhouse.
Well: Most of 2824-2 in good watches got the Incabloc. Nothing SO damn special there... Kobold got this soft iron housing: For anti-magnetism as I understand it.
Seriously, I live in the Arctic: 68.5 grades North. I worked 3 winters at 70.4 grades norths and had much of -35 dg C there: When it's as cold as that, you cover yourself enough ,your watch is protected and your wrist warm it anyway: Never heard of a guy who had his mechanic watch freezing since he had it on it's wrist. I've made the experience with a Tissot T-touch in titanium puted on a steel bench outside, who took half hour to go from hand temperature to -5 dg C. So a watch is far to freez at once even it's cold outside.
The anti-magnetic??? When I'm outside in the wind at -35 , I don't need it or I should hang around magnetic fields who would even be bad for my health(high tension convertors for exemple)...No polar expedition there: You're a high-tension pole worker in the arctic maybe...??? Get yourself a Rolex Millegausse if you really need a watch for that job.
I tell you what: A simple good 2824-2 ETA incabloc is good on your hand even you hang outside in -50 gr C like it can be sometimes in the plains up here. You don't need a Kobold for that: A good Marathon SAR will do it as good.
If your watch have to freez, it will anyway.
To conclude: Yes I believe that you will find those feratures in the Kobold but you can visit the Arctic in winter with another good automatic watch without experiencing troubles...
I will make soon a test actualy! I will let one of my watches: Maybe my SAR to have a night alone outside in -15 dg C and we will see what happen! Matter of weeks before I do that
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true

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 Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 07:09 am
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One should not deitise a wacth over it's performances because of it's name...

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Oh it's true...:D

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 Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 10:48 am
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I'm with Will on this, I like Kobold design and I'm sure all their watches are great timepieces but I think it's an over priced brand. I would doubt that they would survived not saying the truth about their specs.  Not only it would be a shame but it would probably drastically affect their share of market and kill all the good things that the brand was built on.  So I would say yes, it has to be true and have no doubt about it.  Just think that even with all these specs, the asking price is way too high, just my humble opinion.:D  We'll see soon i guess...

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 Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 11:44 am
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I think is has to true JP, it will  be interesting to find out though

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