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 Posted: Sat Mar 27th, 2010 12:03 pm
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Ok I tried the search on 3T and couldn't come up with anything... I tried Dr. Ranffts and the differences I see are the height and the the day date features... Other than that they seem comparable similiar... Are they as far as quality and does the 2824 justify a more costly price?  The reason Im asking is that im looking at two watches that are comparably the same except for the movement... Any help would be appreciated...  thanks

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 Posted: Sat Mar 27th, 2010 01:07 pm
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The 2836 is just a variation of the 2824 with an added day wheel, thus the small extra height. The quality of the movements is equal if the variation is equal.  Just beware that some so called 2836's are actually Chinese clones that were developed for use in fakes,  which could explain the lower cost.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 27th, 2010 02:16 pm
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Yes, as Oscar said it before: The 2836-2 with GMT feature is the most controvertial movement on the market today. It is no more mystery that at the time when ETA was selling huge amount of platforms/parts to Asia, the mounting and finishing was happening there. If I recall well, this exportation don't longer exist but I'm sure that the Chinese production is still living on old parts or new copies...
This said, the 2836-2 movements and some golden 2824-2 in "no land watch" should be avoided for those who want the real thing.
Still, if you want to pay lower price: Those watches can offer fully decorated movements at unbeatable price if the seller is honnest offcourse...
Here is an exemple of a 2836-2 with GMT feature fully decorated and mounted in Asia with ETA parts: All stamps are there and seems genuines...


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 Posted: Sat Mar 27th, 2010 02:46 pm
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Thank you both this makes perfect sense...  The price difference was insignificant it was only about $75 and there was an exchange rate involved so that may be where it was... The dealers are both reputable.  I was just a bit confused as to why one would be used over the other when they both seemed similar and whether one commanded a higher price based on the movement itself.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 27th, 2010 06:06 pm
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And right there with them is the Eta 2834, in most cases but not all the price point is usually fairly close.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 27th, 2010 07:24 pm
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Just to make it clear, the ETA2836-2 is an ETA movement, but the addition of the GMT feature using the date wheel is strictly a Chinese modification using Chinese parts, thus taking it out of the true Swiss Movement category.  As O has said time after time, the only GMT movement the ETA makes is the ETA 2893-2.....period!

 

That said, I own a GMT watch using the Chinese modified 2836-2 and have had no problems with it.


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 Posted: Sat Mar 27th, 2010 08:26 pm
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Thanks for clearing out this matter Ken! Didn't know about this detail: But yes, when I think of it, I never saw any 2836-2 GMT who wasn't a "No land watch"... So what you say, is falling in the conclusion!thankyou.gif

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 Posted: Sat Mar 27th, 2010 11:13 pm
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Ken don't forget about the Eta Valjoux 7754 GMT also. It is modeified but all Swiss.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 27th, 2010 11:23 pm
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Skipdawg wrote: Ken don't forget about the Eta Valjoux 7754 GMT also. It is modeified but all Swiss.
Skip, you are correct, but I am not able to ascertain whether or not it is modified by ETA or by the Swiss Watch Manufacturer such as Chase-Durer, Tutima and others or whether it is done by a central Swiss "modifier".

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 Posted: Sat Mar 27th, 2010 11:28 pm
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KenC wrote: Skipdawg wrote: Ken don't forget about the Eta Valjoux 7754 GMT also. It is modeified but all Swiss.
Skip, you are correct, but I am not able to ascertain whether or not it is modified by ETA or by the Swiss Watch Manufacturer such as Chase-Durer, Tutima and others or whether it is done by a central Swiss "modifier".

I think but not sure that it depends on who is using it. If I recall Chase-Durer and Hamilton do their own Mods and I think Tutima dose too. Others may source out.

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