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 Posted: Tue Jan 9th, 2007 03:39 pm
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I was watching El Gordo on Slop last night when to my amazement they had the temerity to sell COSC certified watches without the COSC certification. lol Of course the prices were reduced but how can they lose the COSC paperwork, and what's the point of calling it COSC if there's no paperwork to support it? Yeah, I know it's just a piece of paper but it's funny to me that they lost them or something. Maybe they are returns? I don't know, it's just funny/fishy to me.



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It's funny to watch El Corona Gorda...Someone needs to tell him he is not Jay Leno. He is a salesman who happens to be in front of a greasy camera. It's fun to
watch him play talk show host??!  smile8.gif

"Welcome to the show...."  "now. tonight we have a very special guest!"  I am always so let down. I am expecting Stallone, or Deniro...maybe Demi Moore...face4.gif

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Even better is the guest's unintelligible BS. He makes some fantastically nonsensical claims...

I must admit I looked at it for a moment during last night's debacle. Say what you will, it is entertaining... humourously entertaining.

I wish I could say the same for the SAH offering. Without the Watch Commander I find the shows a bit too dry. To many the WC is irritating but he does have energy. I really find Gabriel from Oceanaut to have a laconic manner of speaking which is coma inducing. JMHO.

Back on topic. A COSC certified watch without certification? OY!! I caught the ruby and sapphire encrusted monstrosity. I'm no arbitar of taste, but who wants that... or a blue Russian Diver... or a blue Prowler. Is it just me or are these offerings over the top? I guess I'm just not the type of SERIOUS collector they are targeting...

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Paxman wrote: I must admit I looked at it for a moment during last night's debacle. Say what you will, it is entertaining... humourously entertaining.
 

As was the game!!!!!!!!!!smile8.gif But seriously folks, he has his uneducated following to which his non-sensical statements make sense! mistake.gif

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Ken, You should have purchased the blue RD and waited for the orange RD for Fla colors......

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Seriously....does anyone still watch Slop...isn't it all Invicta now?face4.gif Rumor has it that Lior and maybe even the Merm are jumping ship to TT/SAH....especially after Lior got dissed by one of the owners and then piled on by it's members of another forum supposed to be the home base for Slop!

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I thought you had to have the paperwork in order to claim COSC but apparently not. That's why I thought it was odd. I read somewhere that Invicta is the only one that actually includes the certificate with COSC certified watches. They also engrave the number on the movement so I guess it doesn't matter if you have the piece of paper or not.


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MikeD wrote: I thought you had to have the paperwork in order to claim COSC but apparently not. That's why I thought it was odd. I read somewhere that Invicta is the only one that actually includes the certificate with COSC certified watches. They also engrave the number on the movement so I guess it doesn't matter if you have the piece of paper or not.



I got the certificate with my Doxa COSC but it is my only chronometer so that's all I know. I do think different brands include differnt types of paperwork and certification. I guess Invicta is clearly not the only brand to include paperwork since they seem to be selling these without a cert.

May be some of the other members with chronometers can elaborate on their paperwork?

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Paxman wrote:
Not all brands come with the actual certificate from COSC but it can be obtained from Manufacturer/COSC for a very small fee ...All COSC/Chronomtre Watches are stamped with an individual # to identify them to the testing and results for that particular Timepiece....watch2.gif
MikeD wrote: I thought you had to have the paperwork in order to claim COSC but apparently not. That's why I thought it was odd. I read somewhere that Invicta is the only one that actually includes the certificate with COSC certified watches. They also engrave the number on the movement so I guess it doesn't matter if you have the piece of paper or not.



I got the certificate with my Doxa COSC but it is my only chronometer so that's all I know. I do think different brands include differnt types of paperwork and certification. I guess Invicta is clearly not the only brand to include paperwork since they seem to be selling these without a cert.

May be some of the other members with chronometers can elaborate on their paperwork?


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Without the certificate it is just a serialized movement with no warranty that it actually passed COSC tests and for that matter no warranty that it was even submitted. All you get out of that deal is the knowledge that at least one of the bridges on the movement was serialized for COSC testing nothing more.


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OldeCrow wrote:
1st I'm hearing of this as I have sent in for COSC papers for all of my Ventura Chronometres and received them with the 5 position scores and a passing stamp matching the # stamped on the Bridge....My pre-owned Rolex didn't  come with COSC paperwork but the AD got it for me...I have never heard of COSC only testing Bridges/Ebauches(unless you are calling the entire movement a Bridge) but the entire assembled movement...not including the Watch itself as the Watch is assembled after the movement is passed by COSC....and anything can happen after that...especially with an Invicta!!!:DSee FAQ from COSC about issuing of paperwork....

http://www.cosc.ch/faq.php?lang=en
Without the certificate it is just a serialized movement with no warranty that it actually passed COSC tests and for that matter no warranty that it was even submitted. All you get out of that deal is the knowledge that at least one of the bridges on the movement was serialized for COSC testing nothing more.



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More intersting facts about COSC as reported on TZ...scroll down to Part III about Chronometershand6.gif
http://www.timezone.com/library/wwatchfaq/wwatchfaq631668591017665598

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