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 Posted: Wed Oct 10th, 2007 10:19 am
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Xaltotun
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Should I trade my Oris TT1 diver (blue dial, as below):




For an Epos diver Chrono (as below):




The trader is also asking for $300, since:
  1. the Epos is brand new in the box, and my Oris is new, but worn (micro swirls on the clasp and on a few links).
  2. My Oris has a Selita movement (a licenced ETA 2824 movement) whereas the Epos has a (more expensive) Valjoux 7750 movement.

I think it's a fair offer, but I'm note sure. On the one hand, I'd like a Valjoux powered watch and I also already have a blue diver (Omega Seamaster Auto, the "James Bond" model), and on the other hand, that TT1 is mighty nice!

Please let me know what you think!!!!


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 Posted: Wed Oct 10th, 2007 10:43 am
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Welcome first offThumbsUp02.gif

My take....you need to ask yourself if the Epos is worth $800 to $850. The Oris diver you specify gets around $500 to $550 ave on the used market. Since you mention that it is a diver/Chrono, I assume it is at least 200m WR, but since most chrono's can not be used while diving, to me the complication is useless.

If I were you, I would sell the Oris and look for a nice 42mm Hamilton Chrono or similar which can be had for what you would get for the Oris or less.

Again this is just an opinion, as always, obey the wrist if it works for you:D

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I would only trade it if I wanted the chrono functions/look and disliked the polished SS of the Oris.  Other than that, I would keep the Oris.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 10th, 2007 11:21 am
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Thanks guys;

The Epos is worth minimum 1000 Euros (about $1,400 US), and I have seen it online at up to 1,200 Euros (that's $1700!).

Those Epos watches are hard to get here, it's a Euro brand that dates back to 1925 (http://www.epos.ch). Even in Europe, it's tough to find as ADs are rare. I have often admired the Epos divers in articles and magazines...

So in fact the trade amounts to a $800 watch (Oris) for a $1500 watch (Epos). $1,500 is what I think you would get the Epos for here in Canada or in the US, in a store or online, with a small discount - since it's rare it's often not discounted). I have never even seen a recent Epos, but I've seen a few vintages.

The thing is, the Oris has a great look (I like the polished / brushed contrast) and is awful nice; but it has a no-frills movement, the Selita. If it had an an ETA (older models) I might have kept it (you know, ETA prestige and all). Also, since I already have a blue dialed diver (of a much higher standing, if I may add :)), I am thinking about the Chrono look. The Epos kinda looks like a black Daytona. From far LOL...

If there were no $300 involved, I would trade in a sec; but that would have been not very interesting for the other trader.

Obey you wrist, eh? Good one! ThumbsUp02.gif










Last edited on Wed Oct 10th, 2007 11:25 am by Xaltotun

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Robert, I think that's your first name:D

Funny you post this today....just received a flyer from the Epos US rep. they have the watch....salesmans sample, full warranted for $971 US plus shipping.

So with this info, it does seem like a fair trade off.

Regards, Tony

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 Posted: Wed Oct 10th, 2007 11:42 am
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Interesting coincidence!

If the salesman sample is close to $1,000, what would be the retail on a NIB one? $1,200?

Robert (AKA Xaltotun)

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Xaltotun wrote: Interesting coincidence!

If the salesman sample is close to $1,000, what would be the retail on a NIB one? $1,200?

Robert (AKA Xaltotun)

Per the flyer Robert $2550.

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Tony Duronio wrote:
Per the flyer Robert $2550.

Wow, this is an even bigger amount than I initially thought.

I just called the trader; it's a local jeweller (not an AD) that bought it for a client, that never came to pick it up. It was bought this past summer from one of the authorized distributors in Canada (Embix Watch Importation, http://www.embix.com) , for $2500 CAD (!). So it comes with papers, box, etc.

The jeweller tried to sell it but was not able to get a decent offer for it.  He saw my  Oris in a forum and decided to try his luck at an exchange. He would wear my Oris (but does not want to wear the Epos). That's how the whole ting came to be.

I think I am going to trade it, and later on will try and pick up a TT1 on eBay for around $500 if I can. In fact, I like the "old" TT1 blue "checkered" dial design better than the new blue "wave" design. Plus, those old TT1 had ETA movements, making them a bit more desirable IMHO.

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I'll weigh in with my opinion. Let me preface it by saying I am not much of a chrono guy so that may cloud my opinion.

The Oris TT1 divers are excellent watches. I am not certain how much difference you'll find between the ETA and Selita as my gut tells me this is the way things are now. I do know my cuz, CJ (Canadajo) has the ETA based watch and it is rock solid and dead accurate. Having blathered on I will also throw in the fact you might be able to get an ETA based TT1 on the secondary market for quite a reasonable price.

I like the fact the Epos is little more eclectic especially in North America. Its also BNIB and should be super sweet. I think I would go for the Epos from a collectible standpoint.

I am sure that just muddies the waters more....

I voted for the Epos!!

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I LOVE my TT1 as it is rock solid , and it is a beauty to my eye anyway .......BUT as a collector who loves the Swiss brand that has history but is strange and rare , I say go for the Epos .....To me Epos is like an Eterna or Titoni or Candino or Encicar or etc.   ......  you know what I mean ?!?  HOW MANY Epos chrono do you see on a wrist ?????      MY VOTE is for the Epos

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You seem to really like the Epos and the price seems right....go for it!

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 Posted: Wed Oct 10th, 2007 01:41 pm
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Thanks to all, who made excellent points!

I am going to trade it, and later this year try and find a TT1 with the older pattern dial.

This forum is going to be a great place to hang out, besides WatchUSeek.com and FriendsofOris.com!

Cheers!perfect.gif

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