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 Posted: Sun Jun 27th, 2010 09:46 am
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KenC wrote:
Hammerfjord wrote: Where the assembling took place, will remain a mistery sleeping in the vaults of Invicta...
.....................and China! mini me.gif


You spoiled all the mistery!dog smile.gif

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So, am I the only one that's pretty impressed with the final outcome? Don't get me mixed up with an Invicta fanboy as I only own two, each of which were second hand. But for DD to come out and issue a public statement essentially holding hands with Invicta has got to say something about the legitimacy here. I know this subject can get pretty rowdy, so take it easy on me, OK?

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tenbosch wrote: So, am I the only one that's pretty impressed with the final outcome? Don't get me mixed up with an Invicta fanboy as I only own two, each of which were second hand. But for DD to come out and issue a public statement essentially holding hands with Invicta has got to say something about the legitimacy here. I know this subject can get pretty rowdy, so take it easy on me, OK?
This is not a personal attack, but I feel you just glanced at the letter and didn't thoroughly read it...If you really read it, it is not that impressive.  All DD says is that the modules are genuine and that Invicta bought them second hand (instead of properly sourcing them from the manufacturer).  It also states that Invicta did a miserable job of assembling the modules in the case and inspecting them for quality before selling them to an unsuspecting public...and that both DD and Lalo take no responsibility for the loudmouthed, rantings and lies about the situation broadcast by Lalo's pet con-man...but we all know that he doesn't say anything without Lalo's consent!

So...I don't know whether you are the only one who is impressed by the public statement in which DD says Lalo is and idiot and a poor manufacturer with no quality control processes or not...but I, for one,  am not!

And yes...I also own 3 very nice Invicta's that were manufactured years ago...but because of the name, I am now too embarrassed to wear them in public (not a snob...but don't want to be taken for a fool either)!

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tenbosch wrote: So, am I the only one that's pretty impressed with the final outcome? Don't get me mixed up with an Invicta fanboy as I only own two, each of which were second hand. But for DD to come out and issue a public statement essentially holding hands with Invicta has got to say something about the legitimacy here. I know this subject can get pretty rowdy, so take it easy on me, OK?for a price any company will release an announcement that sounds like a commitment or future partnership....this isn't the 1st time...Invicta paid  in some way either with a large order or settlement that DD was happy with....this was never an issue of the watch but of the BS CZ Jim once again created before checking the facts!...he created the DD/Invicta Monster!
      what gets me is that Skelton once again got away with total BS....first of all claiming partnership with DD prior to the sale of this watch which was denied in a letter filed by DD and then blaming DD publicly for the problems the watch has and then claiming"oh I only sell them ,not build them"...this is classic Skelton!
....had he just kept his Big Mouth shut none of this would have even come about nor would have been necessary...a simple "waiting to hear from Invicta about a fix" would have sufficed to the blinded Invictaphiles but instead in his me,me,me CZ Jim narcissistic  manner he had to blow this up to a full scale pile of BULLS**t that we are all so tired of since he was given the job of head puppet(you know ...the one with the dirty knees) by Eyal, who has got to be tired by now of having to bail his ass out of the trouble every time he inserts his foot into his mouth and needs to take a hard look at what kind of a**hole he is harboring!....CZ Jim must go and if his minions can't see how he is using them only for his own gigantic Ego than I feel sorry for them ....wake up and smell the bullS**t!
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He gets away with it Becase,  Birds of A Feather, Flock together!

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KenC wrote:
tenbosch wrote: So, am I the only one that's pretty impressed with the final outcome? Don't get me mixed up with an Invicta fanboy as I only own two, each of which were second hand. But for DD to come out and issue a public statement essentially holding hands with Invicta has got to say something about the legitimacy here. I know this subject can get pretty rowdy, so take it easy on me, OK?
This is not a personal attack, but I feel you just glanced at the letter and didn't thoroughly read it...If you really read it, it is not that impressive.  All DD says is that the modules are genuine and that Invicta bought them second hand (instead of properly sourcing them from the manufacturer).  It also states that Invicta did a miserable job of assembling the modules in the case and inspecting them for quality before selling them to an unsuspecting public...and that both DD and Lalo take no responsibility for the loudmouthed, rantings and lies about the situation broadcast by Lalo's pet con-man...but we all know that he doesn't say anything without Lalo's consent!

So...I don't know whether you are the only one who is impressed by the public statement in which DD says Lalo is and idiot and a poor manufacturer with no quality control processes or not...but I, for one,  am not!

And yes...I also own 3 very nice Invicta's that were manufactured years ago...but because of the name, I am now too embarrassed to wear them in public (not a snob...but don't want to be taken for a fool either)!


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you know ...the one with the dirty knees

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Ken/Oscar, I appreciate the responses. You both know way more about the brand and past issues than I do. I've never really been all that interested in the brand, so I've never followed them very closely. One thing is clear, regardless of whose fault it is, there's definitely some QC issues at Invicta. This should have never left the 'assembly line' in such quality. Too bad DD has gotten caught up in it. I just find it very strange that DD would feel so compelled to issue a response if there wasn't some sort of legitmacy. They should and could have just walked away and/or issued a formal statement that would have backed up Becker's original response.

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tenbosch wrote: Ken/Oscar, I appreciate the responses. You both know way more about the brand and past issues than I do. I've never really been all that interested in the brand, so I've never followed them very closely. One thing is clear, regardless of whose fault it is, there's definitely some QC issues at Invicta. This should have never left the 'assembly line' in such quality. Too bad DD has gotten caught up in it. I just find it very strange that DD would feel so compelled to issue a response if there wasn't some sort of legitmacy. They should and could have just walked away and/or issued a formal statement that would have backed up Becker's original response.
They had to issue a response because Lalo's loudmouthed puppet went on national TV and flatly and repeatedly stated that the problem was due to defective DD modules.  I am sure that Lalo paid a pretty penny to not get sued over this and signed a joint statement exonerating DD for the same reason.

All the statement says is that DD did not manufacture defective modules, that Invicta bought them from a second hand source without the knowledge of DD and then he butchered the installation of the modules because he is a POS manufacturer and then had his puppet lie about the problem and place blame on DD when they had no knowledge of what was happening...thus, your "legitimacy" of statement!

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KenC wrote: tenbosch wrote: Ken/Oscar, I appreciate the responses. You both know way more about the brand and past issues than I do. I've never really been all that interested in the brand, so I've never followed them very closely. One thing is clear, regardless of whose fault it is, there's definitely some QC issues at Invicta. This should have never left the 'assembly line' in such quality. Too bad DD has gotten caught up in it. I just find it very strange that DD would feel so compelled to issue a response if there wasn't some sort of legitmacy. They should and could have just walked away and/or issued a formal statement that would have backed up Becker's original response.
They had to issue a response because Lalo's loudmouthed puppet went on national TV and flatly and repeatedly stated that the problem was due to defective DD modules.  I am sure that Lalo paid a pretty penny to not get sued over this and signed a joint statement exonerating DD for the same reason.

All the statement says is that DD did not manufacture defective modules, that Invicta bought them from a second hand source without the knowledge of DD and then he butchered the installation of the modules because he is a POS manufacturer and then had his puppet lie about the problem and place blame on DD when they had no knowledge of what was happening...thus, your "legitimacy" of statement!


This all goes to if this watch is even Swiss Made as it states on the dial....hard to believe that any Swiss based watch manufacturing company could screw up the assembly so bad...if these watches were assembled in Asia he has another big problem with US Customs...even if Invicta does not fall under the rules of the Swiss Federation because they are not a member (for reasons EL does not want to discuss), the US Customs import laws do follow it.  If it says Swiss Made on the dial and it is not he has an issue

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issues with Invicta date back to 2000 when they were 1st introduced on Slopnbc by Tim Temple and I doubt any model they have produced has not had some sort of issue one WIS or another hasn't experienced....Invicta is a 50/50 crap shoot...some are lucky enough to get a good one others aren't and that is a sign of NO QC whatsoever followed by the worse CS known to WIS by any watch manufacturer!mistake.gif

....now I don't really care what is printed on the dial if the price is right and if at the very least some degree of positive QC/CS is associated with the brand that WIS can rely on.
...The Swiss Federation frowns on Invicta and I heard from a well known,reliable source that in 2008 Invicta was asked to leave Basel because of a issue Zenith and some other well known Swiss companies had with Invicta being in the Hall of Dreams and not wanting Invicta anywhere near them!Invicta was asked to move to another area and when Eyal pitched a fit they asked him to leave...lock,stock and barrel!
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This is a quote ref Invicta vs Rolex.
The only thing they have in common is that they are both watches. I can't imagine that anyone in recent years has paid anywhere near the retail price for an Invicta. They are fashion watches with a horrible history of customer service and quality control to match. Invictas retail pricing is there only to make people think they are getting more watch than they really are.

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