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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:04 am
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yamahaki wrote: Wait, you missed ass trooper, I mean xtrooper. Still has the nazi cop mentality for the dive forum and any other he wants to stick his nose into. He sent me a email early this morning and really threatened me. Also did some name calling. He's my herocool10.gifI sent it to ernie roamers. A direct copy from my email account.
What the Hell did you do to piss off that putz?

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:06 am
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wcbartlett wrote: You can post your story on the  EoT's Dive Watch Forum whose WUS members frequent. Tyler will not delete your post and WUS can do nothing about it. Just be factual about it. Then we can all affirmatively chime in.


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Paxman wrote: These S**ts at WUS are deleting my posts. f***ing Mike Stufler!! What to do??

Seems they are deleting dissenting posts of any kind.  So much for free speech.



I posted to WUS, PMWF, TZ, Watchnet and EOT's dive forum initially and then reposted everything just as it appears here just a few days ago after being alerted Rescue Diver was active again.

It's right here if anyone cares to chime in:

http://www.equationoftime.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29073&highlight=rescue

Last edited on Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:22 am by Paxman

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:10 am
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Recall that he's a Mod on that forum run by the Asian 7750 "Expert".

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:11 am
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Docrwm wrote: I really don't think talking to "Ernie" is at all useful.  He's the central part of the problem.  He genuinely believes that free speech is something that needs to be eliminated.  He doesn't really see those abuses that have been talked about here as abuses - he sees them as his right as the owner of WUS.  Read the rules - WUS is his property - period.


You just might be right, however this is out and out favoritism to the German pricks!! Stuffler asked me for proof I mailed the package and I posted a scan of my receipt. Here's the PM exchange that followed.

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I have done nothing wrong and you have no right to delete my posts. You asked for proof? Please find attacdhed my receipt for post of watch. and you miss the point. YOUR PAL MISREPRESENTED A PIECE OF CRAP WATCH. His insulting and threatening PMs confirm his guilty feelings. Youare acting insular and elitist and I am not at all suprised by this.

I post fact... you delete due to favoritism!!
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I have all the rights to delete your posts  This is not your forum, not your property so take care on your business. You´re getting childish now. Grow up.
Kind regards
Mike

Who is getting childish? I produce the proof he asks for and this follows... of course then a ban as the TRUTH appears to be insulting to some mods and members. Thise dive watch jokers can circle jerk themselves straight to HELL!!

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:17 am
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Paxman wrote: Docrwm wrote: I really don't think talking to "Ernie" is at all useful.  He's the central part of the problem.  He genuinely believes that free speech is something that needs to be eliminated.  He doesn't really see those abuses that have been talked about here as abuses - he sees them as his right as the owner of WUS.  Read the rules - WUS is his property - period.


You just might be right, however this is out and out favoritism to the German pricks!! Stuffler asked me for proof I mailed the package and I posted a scan of my receipt. Here's the PM exchange that followed.

---Quote (Originally by Paxman)---
I have done nothing wrong and you have no right to delete my posts. You asked for proof? Please find attacdhed my receipt for post of watch. and you miss the point. YOUR PAL MISREPRESENTED A PIECE OF CRAP WATCH. His insulting and threatening PMs confirm his guilty feelings. Youare acting insular and elitist and I am not at all suprised by this.

I post fact... you delete due to favoritism!!
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I have all the rights to delete your posts  This is not your forum, not your property so take care on your business. You´re getting childish now. Grow up.
Kind regards
Mike

Who is getting childish? I produce the proof he asks for and this follows... of course then a ban as the TRUTH appears to be insulting to some mods and members. Thise dive watch jokers can circle jerk themselves straight to HELL!!


Pax, you hit the nail on the head.  The German types over there are precisely of that mindset.  Its just very much their way of the highway.  The real problem is that fundamentally they are right - it is Ernie's forum and he does own it.  The main problem I have is that they want traffic, encourage participation, all to make money (recall that this is Ernie's business) but don't have any respect for others.

I post to the Affordables forum because so far I have had no problems with my posts there being altered or negatively commented on.  My own problems were with Mike and Ernie directly.  Basically I said that the Germans were acting as elitist snobs in typical Germanic fashion and was told I was a racist and that such comments would not be tolerated.  The ironic thing was I was commenting on their "racism" toward Asian watches generally and Seiko and other Japanese watches!?!  You see, its ok to slam Chinese watches and Asian watches with terms like "crap", "Cheap", and other slams but its not ok to call the GERMANS on their elitism or their stupidity. 

It all makes perfect sense when you realize that GERMANS ARE BETTER!

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:21 am
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I posted an inquiry about what happened to the "Good Guys" forum on the Public Forum of WUS.  Here is the reply from Mike S.  Please note the last paragraph.

"Shameless pluf from John F`s post on Inquiries

Quote: There is no good guy/bad guy forums any more: there is just this forum.

This is the Watch Deals forum: there are two sections. One is this one, which is inquiries; the other is to alert people to stolen watches.

The idea is that whatever experience you have, it should be reported here.

Basically this is the idea: Use this forum to relate your experiences with buyers, sellers and dealers. If there is a negative experience, you can try to seek resolution, and we advise you strongly to search for feedback before making any deal.

Consider the following as well:

* Please make an effort to resolve any and all disputes before posting here. This board should be a last resort, not a first step in negotiations. Do not post with your negative experience until it appears the other party is unwilling to make amends.
* It is never appropriate to threaten a post on this board in an effort to gain something to which you are not entitled.
* Please be as complete as possible when stating the relevant facts. Documentation is absolutely critical for helping resolve problems that otherwise boil down to "I said, you said" conflicts. Photos, screenshots, transanction information, scans of invoices, etc. are all part of the due diligence you need to undertake before posting here! Document any attempts at resolution as well.

All of the above points are just basic guidelines: Ernie, as the owner of this site, has the final say and makes the final guidelines about what I just posted here, and he has the right to change any of these guidelines as he sees fit. The above points are something the moderators are still discussing, but I think it's okay for me to post this basic message.

JohnF"

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:25 am
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Docrwm wrote: Paxman wrote: Docrwm wrote: I really don't think talking to "Ernie" is at all useful.  He's the central part of the problem.  He genuinely believes that free speech is something that needs to be eliminated.  He doesn't really see those abuses that have been talked about here as abuses - he sees them as his right as the owner of WUS.  Read the rules - WUS is his property - period.


You just might be right, however this is out and out favoritism to the German pricks!! Stuffler asked me for proof I mailed the package and I posted a scan of my receipt. Here's the PM exchange that followed.

---Quote (Originally by Paxman)---
I have done nothing wrong and you have no right to delete my posts. You asked for proof? Please find attacdhed my receipt for post of watch. and you miss the point. YOUR PAL MISREPRESENTED A PIECE OF CRAP WATCH. His insulting and threatening PMs confirm his guilty feelings. Youare acting insular and elitist and I am not at all suprised by this.

I post fact... you delete due to favoritism!!
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I have all the rights to delete your posts  This is not your forum, not your property so take care on your business. You´re getting childish now. Grow up.
Kind regards
Mike

Who is getting childish? I produce the proof he asks for and this follows... of course then a ban as the TRUTH appears to be insulting to some mods and members. Thise dive watch jokers can circle jerk themselves straight to HELL!!


Pax, you hit the nail on the head.  The German types over there are precisely of that mindset.  Its just very much their way of the highway.  The real problem is that fundamentally they are right - it is Ernie's forum and he does own it.  The main problem I have is that they want traffic, encourage participation, all to make money (recall that this is Ernie's business) but don't have any respect for others.

I post to the Affordables forum because so far I have had no problems with my posts there being altered or negatively commented on.  My own problems were with Mike and Ernie directly.  Basically I said that the Germans were acting as elitist snobs in typical Germanic fashion and was told I was a racist and that such comments would not be tolerated.  The ironic thing was I was commenting on their "racism" toward Asian watches generally and Seiko and other Japanese watches!?!  You see, its ok to slam Chinese watches and Asian watches with terms like "crap", "Cheap", and other slams but its not ok to call the GERMANS on their elitism or their stupidity. 

It all makes perfect sense when you realize that GERMANS ARE BETTER!


 

Well being of German descent I can't argue this one!! I hope you didn't post an Aeromatic as a German watch. These guys are elitis fucks!!

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:27 am
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Docrwm wrote: I posted an inquiry about what happened to the "Good Guys" forum on the Public Forum of WUS.  Here is the reply from Mike S.  Please note the last paragraph.

"Shameless pluf from John F`s post on Inquiries

Quote: There is no good guy/bad guy forums any more: there is just this forum.

This is the Watch Deals forum: there are two sections. One is this one, which is inquiries; the other is to alert people to stolen watches.

The idea is that whatever experience you have, it should be reported here.

Basically this is the idea: Use this forum to relate your experiences with buyers, sellers and dealers. If there is a negative experience, you can try to seek resolution, and we advise you strongly to search for feedback before making any deal.

Consider the following as well:

* Please make an effort to resolve any and all disputes before posting here. This board should be a last resort, not a first step in negotiations. Do not post with your negative experience until it appears the other party is unwilling to make amends.
* It is never appropriate to threaten a post on this board in an effort to gain something to which you are not entitled.
* Please be as complete as possible when stating the relevant facts. Documentation is absolutely critical for helping resolve problems that otherwise boil down to "I said, you said" conflicts. Photos, screenshots, transanction information, scans of invoices, etc. are all part of the due diligence you need to undertake before posting here! Document any attempts at resolution as well.

All of the above points are just basic guidelines: Ernie, as the owner of this site, has the final say and makes the final guidelines about what I just posted here, and he has the right to change any of these guidelines as he sees fit. The above points are something the moderators are still discussing, but I think it's okay for me to post this basic message.

JohnF"

I did see and adhere to these guidelines. I've got Stuffler's email address from PMWF. No telling where it could show up!!

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:32 am
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Paxman wrote: Docrwm wrote: Paxman wrote: Docrwm wrote: I really don't think talking to "Ernie" is at all useful.  He's the central part of the problem.  He genuinely believes that free speech is something that needs to be eliminated.  He doesn't really see those abuses that have been talked about here as abuses - he sees them as his right as the owner of WUS.  Read the rules - WUS is his property - period.


You just might be right, however this is out and out favoritism to the German pricks!! Stuffler asked me for proof I mailed the package and I posted a scan of my receipt. Here's the PM exchange that followed.

---Quote (Originally by Paxman)---
I have done nothing wrong and you have no right to delete my posts. You asked for proof? Please find attacdhed my receipt for post of watch. and you miss the point. YOUR PAL MISREPRESENTED A PIECE OF CRAP WATCH. His insulting and threatening PMs confirm his guilty feelings. Youare acting insular and elitist and I am not at all suprised by this.

I post fact... you delete due to favoritism!!
---End Quote---
I have all the rights to delete your posts  This is not your forum, not your property so take care on your business. You´re getting childish now. Grow up.
Kind regards
Mike

Who is getting childish? I produce the proof he asks for and this follows... of course then a ban as the TRUTH appears to be insulting to some mods and members. Thise dive watch jokers can circle jerk themselves straight to HELL!!


Pax, you hit the nail on the head.  The German types over there are precisely of that mindset.  Its just very much their way of the highway.  The real problem is that fundamentally they are right - it is Ernie's forum and he does own it.  The main problem I have is that they want traffic, encourage participation, all to make money (recall that this is Ernie's business) but don't have any respect for others.

I post to the Affordables forum because so far I have had no problems with my posts there being altered or negatively commented on.  My own problems were with Mike and Ernie directly.  Basically I said that the Germans were acting as elitist snobs in typical Germanic fashion and was told I was a racist and that such comments would not be tolerated.  The ironic thing was I was commenting on their "racism" toward Asian watches generally and Seiko and other Japanese watches!?!  You see, its ok to slam Chinese watches and Asian watches with terms like "crap", "Cheap", and other slams but its not ok to call the GERMANS on their elitism or their stupidity. 

It all makes perfect sense when you realize that GERMANS ARE BETTER!


 

Well being of German descent I can't argue this one!! I hope you didn't post an Aeromatic as a German watch. These guys are elitis f***s!!



Funny, I started off asking about Aeromatic - a Flieger - and got SLAMMED right away.  But of course my comments were inappropriate for actually having the termerity to point out their intolerance!  It's funny, in a twisted sort of way, if you really think about them not having learned a Damn thing from WWII.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:34 am
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hey pax,info@watchuseek.com goes to romers.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:46 am
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I'm gonna ask all involved to stick to the facts here and not let this issue become a personal attack :) 1st of all do you have a tracking # Pax and proof the item was returned?

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 Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:52 am
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Hey O see the first post... this was my mistake in not getting tracking or insurance. My point is the watch was misrepresented and I'll bet he's got it. Here's my proof of post...

Regardless we all know who we are dealing with so personal attacks are not needed...just ask KC!!

Unfortunately, none of the numbers on the receipt are trackable...

Attachment: rescurreceipt.jpg (Downloaded 34 times)

Last edited on Sat Feb 17th, 2007 09:53 am by Paxman

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