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 Posted: Wed Jan 4th, 2012 08:40 pm
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Hammerfjord wrote: Been misleaded there... I understood that it was another metal than steel. Usual carbon steel can rust deep Oscar: Not only superficially.
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actually Kazim said it was a metal never used in watches before which to date has been mostly SS...there are actually some carbon steel alloys that only rust superficially,and not deep at all...they are used in Highway lamp posts here in Ohio and once they rust to a nice brown color,do not require any type of maintenance like paint....Cobra Golf has used a 8620 carbon steel in their "trusty rusty" wedges for years,and the look is awesome imho!....Kazim will be sealing whatever metal he is using so any deeper rusting if any will be stopped...so for now I stick to my very simple guess of carbon steel...ThumbsUp02.gif

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 Posted: Fri Jan 6th, 2012 11:51 am
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oagaspar wrote:
Hammerfjord wrote: Been misleaded there... I understood that it was another metal than steel. Usual carbon steel can rust deep Oscar: Not only superficially.
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actually Kazim said it was a metal never used in watches before which to date has been mostly SS...there are actually some carbon steel alloys that only rust superficially,and not deep at all...they are used in Highway lamp posts here in Ohio and once they rust to a nice brown color,do not require any type of maintenance like paint....Cobra Golf has used a 8620 carbon steel in their "trusty rusty" wedges for years,and the look is awesome imho!....Kazim will be sealing whatever metal he is using so any deeper rusting if any will be stopped...so for now I stick to my very simple guess of carbon steel...ThumbsUp02.gif

Never been on a golf course Oscar but this color looks great! I didn't know this kind of steel in fact: Lamp posts are galvanised up here if I recall well.
A bezel with this maroon rust color on the bronze case would be a killer
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 Posted: Sun Jan 8th, 2012 05:08 pm
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I think Shimano and Daiwa use this material for their rods and reels. I think one or 2 of my rods uses this. That color would be very luxurious if used on a watch case.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 22nd, 2012 06:30 pm
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Hoping to be lucky this time around. I'm holding my breath for this one. my love.gif

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 Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 02:52 pm
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hi everybody, first of all, i am realy sorry that i am lately did not have time to answer eveyr PM or email. i am doing most of the work myself. and sometimes 16 hours a day are not enough. please forgive me.

after long testing the material i have used for the new bezel and caseback i have decided not sell this complete watch. i will ad these parts as an extra for the new version. the material is unique and so is the apperance, everytime it looks different, so i can not make pics and sell this. as every watch would look different and people would say "hey i did not order this watch". but i dont have time to make a pic of each watch.

now i am doing a different material. but this material will look same on each watch.

and first time ever i will start to take downpayments.
as this is also limited run i want that the first ones get the watch they want.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 04:35 pm
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Hi Kazim, what's the depth rating, will it be 1500 meters?

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 Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 04:38 pm
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sure its still 1500 meter as the new material is tough also.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 04:56 pm
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I am ready for one Kazim....send me an invoice my friend.ThumbsUp02.gif

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 Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 05:04 pm
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maybe there is a misunderstaning. i mean the new bronze version of the 1500.
the nautilus will take longer to get it done.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 05:44 pm
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Will the new bronze version of the 1500 have that same nautical look?

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 Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2012 07:00 pm
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Kazim,
The Nautilus was a great looking diver and the Eintausen didn't get to replace it totally even the case is very similar: Maybe because of the bezel's insert and etching's difference...?
I think that many will be glad to see a Nautilus#2 coming out(without the same name): I know the problems you met about the name and even your own name as "Kenzo" when you tried to establish your own brand: Nothing's easy those days...Sadly.
From my own point of view: A Nautilus reborn has it's place, maybe with a new touch?
Still, on those Nautilus/Eintausen cases models, we could feel the Fricker influence and a somehow Dreadnought's design also reconnected on other models as the Benarus 1km a while after.
On the other side, I find the 1500 really unique on it's own and there, you came out from the Fricker design and brought something really personal and majestic: And as I own one, I know what I talk about.
I understand this new carbon steel trouble for the 1500: Sure you can't make pictures of exactly how the watch will be...But!
Remember that you are now the guy who makes unique and low serial 100% Made-in-Germany watches: Uniqueness is what this unpredictable metal defines somehow. Isn't it?
I think that your trusted customers will come for the surprise and will even make others willing to take the chance: This rust patina will never get to be ugly even it's not exactly the same on each watches.
After all, we all want somehow something personal: The bronze models are there actually to answer a part of the demand on this patina modulation and uniqueness, so there is a market for the "unpredictable materials" as your carbon steel, even it might take time for some radicals to adjust to it.
My point of view...
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 Posted: Sat Feb 18th, 2012 07:42 am
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I agree completely. Bring on the unique watches! I would welcome having one that is not the same as all the others and would not mind at all some variation in the look. If you're making 50 watches for instance, I think just showing a series of quick snapshots illustrating the variation would be plenty to give people the idea of what they are getting. There is no need for expensive and time consuming professional product pics of each and every one. Your customers will understand they are getting something similar but slightly different than the basic model shown. I don't think there would be any disappointment if that is made clear from the start. Don't give up! ;)

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