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 Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 09:42 am
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IanM wrote:

markjnk - you wanna swap your 001 and a few bucks for an Omega Seamaster 120 f300 diver in minty condition? The Enzo in your avatar is an absolute classic! ;)

Cheers all - a very patient IanM hand6.gif



Hey Ian, no way!  I just got the EM001 yesterday and have no intention of flipping this watch, mostly for ther reasons you point out above.  The Enzo is a symbol of how to treat your customers right and how to run a company in a way that creates loyalty.

Check the Enzo sub-forum for a write up on my new arrival and more pics.  Thanks for the offer.

Mark

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 Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 10:11 am
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I don't know...I always thought the "hey help me design it" trip was a bit of a gimmick...that said, I remember that the LM1 looked like an "homage" of something (could not find a picture), the LM2 is a cheap Glycine Luganaire, the LM3 with a bezel change could be an Enzo...but here's the killer for me...it is a secret which movement you get.  Even the literature delivered with the watch doesn't state whether it's a Sellita or an ETA.  I had a weak moment and almost bought a preowned LM3...when I asked the owner which movement the watch had...he had to email Mitch (who I am supposed to believe?).

I believe that the cult was built by "gimmick" of pseudo participation and all of the great comments on the WUS Ocean7 Forum...of course any negative comments were immediately zapped (as the forum is paid for by Ocean7) and if you then took your negative comments to the WUS Dive Forum or any other WUS Forum, you were immediately banned.  jmho

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 Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 11:43 am
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Yep, I was there for that one.

A guy bought a O7 watch and wrote a quick review on the O7 boards about it. It was about 80% positive, 20% negative. It was a fair review.

Mitch had the mods edit the thread and the other folks hammered him so much, he cut out all the bad and just gave up. It was sickening. Frankly, things happen. Mistakes are made. It's the course of life. But how you handle those mistakes and fix those problems is what good customer service is for.

Seriously. Utterly pathetic. And while they may have some watches I still drool over, I simply don't trust the man after my first-hand horrors with the company.

Nuff said.

Mark

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 Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 12:30 pm
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This has been an interesting thread. I've drooled many times over the LM-6C. I've even given consideration to putting it on my list of watches I will have, but after hearing so many 'horror' stories with the occasional positive one, I must say I'm very wary of dealing with them.

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murphy j wrote: This has been an interesting thread. I've drooled many times over the LM-6C. I've even given consideration to putting it on my list of watches I will have, but after hearing so many 'horror' stories with the occasional positive one, I must say I'm very wary of dealing with them.

Murph I just saw one pre-owned for sale at either WUS or the TZ. I was speedy forum surfing so not sure for I was updating my antivirus at the same time. LOL :D

They are selling much lower pre-owned. I wish in a way I had waited but do like mine. I have many Chronos but wanted a beefy chron diver and the LM-6C fit the bill for that.

But my Fav beefy Chrono is still the Formex DS2000 LE :cool:

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Skip, I think I saw that one, but unfortunately I'm holding out on any purchases till after I get home. I'm chasing a grail and hoping the wife won't beat me up too badly when I find the right deal and spend the money with or without her permission:D.

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murphy j wrote: Skip, I think I saw that one, but unfortunately I'm holding out on any purchases till after I get home. I'm chasing a grail and hoping the wife won't beat me up too badly when I find the right deal and spend the money with or without her permission:D.

Murph I hear ya buddy. I'm trying to behave myself so I can maybe go for something big for either my B-day in September or Christmas. I have a few targets in my sites so will wait and see how I am doing by the end of August before I narrow down the choice. LOL :D

I'm going to allow myself 2 small possibles in the mean time. If I see something I really want. :cool:

I would be so in trouble if I had a wife to answer too. :P

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Skipdawg wrote:

I would be so in trouble if I had a wife to answer too. :P

Yeah, you'd always be in the 'Dawg' housesubtlelaugh.gif. My last purchase was my custom Stingray that isn't due to arrive till Sept. The grail I'm chasing will probably get me grounded and my spending priveledges yanked for the next year. But if I find a good deal on it, it'll be worth itThumbsUp02.gif.

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I've been reading this thread and I guess I am also the exception, I own a LM3, LM2, and LM6gmt. Mitch has been very professional and fair in his dealings with me and serviced any issues I have had, and I can be very picky. The watches perform very well as far as accuracy goes and I am a very satisfied O7 customer.

I also work for a company that has a NON-Transferable warranty, I happen to agree with this practice. Someone who purchases the watch second hand (at a considerable discount, and of no profit to the maker) should IMO not be entittled to the same benefits as the original owner.

As far as the watches being knock-offs or homages well let's just say we could say that about alot of watches. I have yet to see a truly original design that did not borrow elements from earlier designs or other watches, this is in the eye of the beholder.

Anyway just my two cents, I've had a good experience with O7 and Mitch.

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caesarmascetti wrote: I've been reading this thread and I guess I am also the exception, I own a LM3, LM2, and LM6gmt. Mitch has been very professional and fair in his dealings with me and serviced any issues I have had, and I can be very picky. The watches perform very well as far as accuracy goes and I am a very satisfied O7 customer.

I also work for a company that has a NON-Transferable warranty, I happen to agree with this practice. Someone who purchases the watch second hand (at a considerable discount, and of no profit to the maker) should IMO not be entittled to the same benefits as the original owner.

As far as the watches being knock-offs or homages well let's just say we could say that about alot of watches. I have yet to see a truly original design that did not borrow elements from earlier designs or other watches, this is in the eye of the beholder.

Anyway just my two cents, I've had a good experience with O7 and Mitch.

Thanks for the post. And no there is nothing wrong with  homage watches. I have a few. :D

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caesarmascetti wrote: I also work for a company that has a NON-Transferable warranty, I happen to agree with this practice. Someone who purchases the watch second hand (at a considerable discount, and of no profit to the maker) should IMO not be entittled to the same benefits as the original owner.



That's cool. However, when I bought my G-2 last year, it was a TRANSFERRABLE warranty and apparently one of the very few in the business. It was around this time, when the watch emblems on their bracelets started falling off with glue on them that he changed the policy.

My warranty card clearly listed it as a transferrable warranty for 1 year. So, this was before that change.

Just saying.

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caesarmascetti wrote: I've been reading this thread and I guess I am also the exception, I own a LM3, LM2, and LM6gmt. Mitch has been very professional and fair in his dealings with me and serviced any issues I have had, and I can be very picky. The watches perform very well as far as accuracy goes and I am a very satisfied O7 customer.

I also work for a company that has a NON-Transferable warranty, I happen to agree with this practice. Someone who purchases the watch second hand (at a considerable discount, and of no profit to the maker) should IMO not be entittled to the same benefits as the original owner.

As far as the watches being knock-offs or homages well let's just say we could say that about alot of watches. I have yet to see a truly original design that did not borrow elements from earlier designs or other watches, this is in the eye of the beholder.

Anyway just my two cents, I've had a good experience with O7 and Mitch.

 

I on the other hand have a very serious problem with warranties that are not transferable.  The manufacturer is (or should be) warrantying the product, not the owner.  For a manufacturer to say, "oops...I know the watch is only X months old and the warranty is for X years is simply bullshit.  The manufacturer has been paid in full for the watch and the warranty risk and has already made his profit...for the manufacturer not to honor the warranty is cheap and unethical...regardless of who it is.

Glad you have had good experience with Mitch...but his non-transferable warranty policy is simply cheap...he has made his profit...and now he won't stand behind it simply because the original purchaser sold it to somebody else...what an arrogant putzy way to do business!  What?...does he expect to make a profit every time it changes hands?

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