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Jim,
I guess and hope I will get the samples in April.




Montauk wrote: RALF,

I think it looks great because the watch looks bigger... the bezel numbers draw the eye to the outside edge of the case.  My only problem is deciding to order a second Moray w/ black dial or the special Moray green... waiting for a green dial pic so I can decide.

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Jim

 

BENARUS wrote:
Sorry to tell you it is not a mistake it will be made like on the sample


sooner76 wrote: The numbers are a prototype mistake. On a dive watch with a rotating bezel, the bottom of the numbers should be adjacent to the dial, and the top of the numbers adjacent to the outer edge of the bezel.


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Montauk wrote:
Most of the time the bezel is going to be with BIP at 12 o'clock.... if you look at the bezel the number 30 is oriented at 6 o'clock.  If the numbers face inward then the 30 would be upside down.


Obviously, it's the choice of the watch designer to do it however they want, and either way it's not a deal breaker. But just for the record, I quickly checked about 25-30 different brands of dive watches - major brands and boutique brands alike - and ALL of them orient the 15 and 45 toward the dial face, and all but one (Enzo) orients the 30 toward the dial (making it upside down when the bezel is in the normal position).

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Thanks for the info.  Enzo probably realized that it is good to have 30 right-side-up in standard position, i.e. facing out.  Interesting that Enzo oriented 15 and 45 to the inside.  All things considered anything goes.

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Montauk wrote:
Most of the time the bezel is going to be with BIP at 12 o'clock.... if you look at the bezel the number 30 is oriented at 6 o'clock.  If the numbers face inward then the 30 would be upside down.


Obviously, it's the choice of the watch designer to do it however they want, and either way it's not a deal breaker. But just for the record, I quickly checked about 25-30 different brands of dive watches - major brands and boutique brands alike - and ALL of them orient the 15 and 45 toward the dial face, and all but one (Enzo) orients the 30 toward the dial (making it upside down when the bezel is in the normal position).

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As a scuba diver, it makes it easier when you glance at your watch to read your bottom time underwater and the numbers face the dial (and the minute hand). As the bezel rotates, the numbers face the dial and are easier to read.  I'd imagine back in the day when the watch was the primary method a diver had to track time, it was more of a safety issue. I wouldn't want to mistake my bottom time because I misread an upside down number! For the desk divers...no big deal. :)

I'm still going to order a Moray though, because it's going to be a damn fine watch!

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It is certainly an interesting issue... some watches show 30 facing outward while 45 and 15 face inward. 

Another interesting detial is to examine the direction that numbers on the dial face.  On ORIS TTI or SEIKO Monster the small numbers on the dial all face to the bottom of the watch.  So numbers between 3 - 9 face to the outside of the dial, while numbers above 9 - 3 face inward.  This keeps all the numbers oriented to the person wearing the watch.  Take a look at a SEIKO Monster, to see what I mean.

And notice the 30 is upside down !  So there is probably no correct answer.  Suffice to say, that Ralf was aware of what he was doing, and this makes the MORAY unique.  Also, I believe it makes the watch look bigger, as the eye is drawn naturally from the bezel to the outside edge.

 


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I think if I were going to use this watch under water, I'd say "no way." But you're starting to convince me, Jim -- the more I look at the bezel, the more I like the numbers oriented that way, purely from an aesthetic point of view.

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I prefer the way it is....I like seeing the 30 right side up..

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jfstrat wrote: As a scuba diver, it makes it easier when you glance at your watch to read your bottom time underwater and the numbers face the dial (and the minute hand). As the bezel rotates, the numbers face the dial and are easier to read.  I'd imagine back in the day when the watch was the primary method a diver had to track time, it was more of a safety issue. I wouldn't want to mistake my bottom time because I misread an upside down number! For the desk divers...no big deal. :)

I'm still going to order a Moray though, because it's going to be a damn fine watch!

That's true. The numbers facing the dial should be the proper alignment.  ;)

But since I have never worn any watch while diving for a long time (only use dive computer now), so the numbers facing outward does not matter at all. :P

Also interested to see the sample of Dial 6. The green dial with white lume, as in the drawing, does not look so great but it should look nice with this greenish lume.  :)

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The green sample dial is on the way to me we can see the color and lume , but the funny dial company made all the letters in black , don't ask me why:?



Nai_Maew wrote:
jfstrat wrote: As a scuba diver, it makes it easier when you glance at your watch to read your bottom time underwater and the numbers face the dial (and the minute hand). As the bezel rotates, the numbers face the dial and are easier to read.  I'd imagine back in the day when the watch was the primary method a diver had to track time, it was more of a safety issue. I wouldn't want to mistake my bottom time because I misread an upside down number! For the desk divers...no big deal. :)

I'm still going to order a Moray though, because it's going to be a damn fine watch!

That's true. The numbers facing the dial should be the proper alignment.  ;)

But since I have never worn any watch while diving for a long time (only use dive computer now), so the numbers facing outward does not matter at all. :P

Also interested to see the sample of Dial 6. The green dial with white lume, as in the drawing, does not look so great but it should look nice with this greenish lume.  :)

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